Alexander too soon?

[Imoye]

I think it's alright, been leveling pretty slow myself. Now I can't access the game though because SE shipped out the physical copies too late. So yeah, would've been 60 by now.

[Miscreant]

It's wrong? why go take a nice hard look at all the very pointless threads around.....

There is kind of a difference between what they are asking for and what you are asking for though.... They are asking for content faster which benefits everyone as we all get new things to do. You are asking to hold off content, which takes away new things for people to do. And if you say holding off content benefits the slower players, please tell me how it will be any different in August to how it will be after launch. This whole other people post pointless threads so I can approach... I'm guessing no one ever gave you the would you jump off a cliff if so and so would talk when you were a kid, just because people do stupid things doesn't mean you should.

But seriously whats up with these forums today, someone complaining about to many new abilities and another complaining about the new raids coming to soon, sounds you guys should have just stayed in 2.0

[Sapphic]

IL179 and can't get past DPS checks?

We did it with average ilvl of under 160. I tanked it at 151 PLD as our member whos levelling DRK isn't at 60 yet. Only 3 members where in full Law, and not fully upgraded. BLM, 1xBRD and WAR. 2x BRDS, 1x BLM 1x DRG.

Problem is many are used to heavily over-gearing content when it gets released due to it being a lower ILVL requirement than the previous tomestone ilvl.

[Ragnorak]

Bring on Alex!

[Aldora]

Tanks can help make up for it (Especially Warriors right now. Dat Warrior) but honestly, this is one of the biggest issues most parties have when doing Bismark - the DPS check.

The thing is, the Warrior will always put out more DPS then a Paladin. However, you should still be able to clear the DPS check with 2 Paladins in Shield Oath. Ofcourse it's possible to equip a strength build and go Sword Oath, but by doing so you will also increase the damage you take and add to the strain for healers to keep them alive. In order to get through the DPS checks, everyone has to be most out of their classes that's true. But, i don't think people should rely on a Paladin's dps to get through the DPS check. My "fear" would be that when parties are not getting through the DPS check, tanks will have to switch to Warrior just to get through. That would not be good for people running the duty through the DF (since it will be a likely scenario that will not be grouped with a warrior as tank).

[CGMidlander]

IL179 and can't get past DPS checks?

I was i158 and below accuracy cap (missed ~3 times on flank with 538) when I cleared. Lol

[Sapphic]

I was i158 and below accuracy cap (missed ~3 times on flank with 538) when I cleared. Lol

You solod it? ^_^

[CGMidlander]

You solod it? ^_^

Nope. It'd be disrespectful to the group of people who I regularly play with to claim so. That said, they were similarly geared too at the time. We just know our rotations and job nuances better than the average player you'd get through PF.

[Dererk]

There was plenty of time to level and gear I got DRK to 60 this week end and gearing it now.

what we do need thou is a raid roulette that involves the crystal tower raids may not be a good idea to do the coil ones but who knows maybe down the line.

[Eidolon]

The thing is, the Warrior will always put out more DPS then a Paladin. However, you should still be able to clear the DPS check with 2 Paladins in Shield Oath. Ofcourse it's possible to equip a strength build and go Sword Oath, but by doing so you will also increase the damage you take and add to the strain for healers to keep them alive. In order to get through the DPS checks, everyone has to be most out of their classes that's true. But, i don't think people should rely on a Paladin's dps to get through the DPS check. My "fear" would be that when parties are not getting through the DPS check, tanks will have to switch to Warrior just to get through. That would not be good for people running the duty through the DF (since it will be a likely scenario that will not be grouped with a warrior as tank).

Don't misudnerstand - I don't think that Tanks /should/ have to make up for weak DPS. I had that in a static and it -enraged- me.

But what I was pointing out to the person that was going back-and-forth with me was simply that the person who posted that they were i179... was only ONE person. A group working together can make up for the weakest factor, but a single GOOD player can't make up for an entire party being bad. Likewise, my WAR can match some DPS, but I'm not gonna be able to do it alone, no matter how much DPS I do.

I do agree with you... I hope people don't start spamming WAR's, or trying to make PLD/DRK's feel obsolete. Because that'll just get WAR's nerfed, and imo? We're in a good position right now as what we're meant to be - a heavy damage tank with good spikes of mitigation and a beefy HP pool for survivability.

While I don't agree with the OP's original notion, being forced to skip cut scenes, or to read up on story dungeons is just sad.

Why should people have a worse experience just because they got to the content a few days/weeks/months later?

Forgive me, but why did you quote me? I specifically stated in my post that I will never force someone to skip cutscenes in combat. And honestly, the 50-60 dungouns are easy enough that you don't need to read for them. All mechanics are implied, except maybe one or two outliers. But none of them that I've seen are really whipeable.

Regardless, I don't disagree. you should NEVER be forced to skip cutscenes. As for reading up on story dungouns... people aren't going to be que'ing those unless they're fishing for first timers atm, or they are helping their friend. I think most people are going in with a pretty open mind. But the two dungouns that come after? Feel free to read on them if you want. The two Extremes/The raids when they come out? It is more polite to read for the fights in those scenarios.