MCH... I'm done.

[SuzakuCMX]

I don't understand this logic at all.

Law of Large numbers. Probability is hard to see with small sample sizes. You'd need a sample size of over 500 to get something within 5% of 50% proc chance consistently.

Meanwhile you're probably only gonna use Split Shot around 100 times in a fight, in which case you would only remember the times RNG screwed you by giving you 7 non-procs in a row. You won't notice that your proc chance is actually around 50% with a large margin of error.

EDIT: though I agree relying on RNG procs is unsatisfying when it screws you, as well as Cleaner Shot only having 20 more potency than Enhanced Split. Cleaner Shot is good because it's 100 more potency than Split shot, but you really only see how small the difference is from Slug to Clean.

[Odowla]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

[SuzakuCMX]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

Yep, and when you get a Split Proc you use slug Shot anyways so you wouldn't notice.

[Ephemiel]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

Why should we say anything when it does proc? Did you forget every other class can do the same WITHOUT the RNG? And even when we do get procs in a row, the damage simply isn't there. All they can say is "yay it proced.....and we barely did the damage".

[SuzakuCMX]

Why should we say anything when it does proc? Did you forget every other class can do the same WITHOUT the RNG? And even when we do get procs in a row, the damage simply isn't there. All they can say is "yay it proced.....and we barely did the damage".

Then the problem is with the potency on Enhanced Slug/Cleaner Shot and not the RNG.

[Ephemiel]

Then the problem is with the potency on Enhanced Slug/Cleaner Shot and not the RNG.

The fact it has RNG is one of the problems. They have less DPS than most classes [hell, some say even White Mage can do more, not sure if that's an exaggeration] and NEED those procs to happen. That's the problem. If the abilities were already good and strong and the proc simply added something extra, i'm pretty sure that people wouldn't complain. Imagine if Bards had this RNG thing, imagine if Dragoons or Ninjas had it.

[Humorless]

Imagine if Bards had this RNG thing, imagine if Dragoons

You mean... Bloodletter and Fang/Wheel?

[Ephemiel]

You mean... Bloodletter and Fang/Wheel?

What does Bloodletter have with RNG?

And Fang/wheel? You mean those 2 abilities that have the same potency and it's up to YOU to position yourself correctly? It's obvious what i meant, think a bit.

[Odowla]

Why should we say anything when it does proc? Did you forget every other class can do the same WITHOUT the RNG? And even when we do get procs in a row, the damage simply isn't there. All they can say is "yay it proced.....and we barely did the damage".

I mean its a proc based class - this isnt new to mmos.

It's supposed to feel satisfying when it procs, and it's kind of awesome when it does.
I think 50% is very generous for a proc rate considering you get 7 every minute, lol

[Roshidon1]

What does Bloodletter have with RNG?

And Fang/wheel? You mean those 2 abilities that have the same potency and it's up to YOU to position yourself correctly? It's obvious what i meant, think a bit.

Bloodletter procs based on if your dots crit or not. IE. RNG