MCH... I'm done.

[Odowla]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

[SuzakuCMX]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

Yep, and when you get a Split Proc you use slug Shot anyways so you wouldn't notice.

[Ephemiel]

Basically you remember the times where it didnt proc 7 times in a row, but you don't say anything aabout how the RNG is too high when it procs 10 times in a row..

Why should we say anything when it does proc? Did you forget every other class can do the same WITHOUT the RNG? And even when we do get procs in a row, the damage simply isn't there. All they can say is "yay it proced.....and we barely did the damage".

[SuzakuCMX]

Why should we say anything when it does proc? Did you forget every other class can do the same WITHOUT the RNG? And even when we do get procs in a row, the damage simply isn't there. All they can say is "yay it proced.....and we barely did the damage".

Then the problem is with the potency on Enhanced Slug/Cleaner Shot and not the RNG.

[Ephemiel]

Then the problem is with the potency on Enhanced Slug/Cleaner Shot and not the RNG.

The fact it has RNG is one of the problems. They have less DPS than most classes [hell, some say even White Mage can do more, not sure if that's an exaggeration] and NEED those procs to happen. That's the problem. If the abilities were already good and strong and the proc simply added something extra, i'm pretty sure that people wouldn't complain. Imagine if Bards had this RNG thing, imagine if Dragoons or Ninjas had it.

[Humorless]

Imagine if Bards had this RNG thing, imagine if Dragoons

You mean... Bloodletter and Fang/Wheel?

[Ephemiel]

You mean... Bloodletter and Fang/Wheel?

What does Bloodletter have with RNG?

And Fang/wheel? You mean those 2 abilities that have the same potency and it's up to YOU to position yourself correctly? It's obvious what i meant, think a bit.

[Roshidon1]

What does Bloodletter have with RNG?

And Fang/wheel? You mean those 2 abilities that have the same potency and it's up to YOU to position yourself correctly? It's obvious what i meant, think a bit.

Bloodletter procs based on if your dots crit or not. IE. RNG

[Clarkamite]

Imagine if Bards had this RNG thing, imagine if Dragoons or Ninjas had it.

Just for arguments sake, classes with a good portion of how other classes can play having RNG aspects built in:

Bloodletter CD resetting due to the RNG of your dots crit'ing. 2.0 BLM numbers change wildly depending on RNG Crit and RNG Firestarter/Thundercloud Procs, WHM MP can be saved immensely by RNG free procs to cure 2 and cure 3, 2.0 PLD Bulwark…

It was common to go several rotations and never see a Firestarter at 40%. You might not think so but those free fire 3's really do change how high your numbers would go.

SE will find a way to max the class play well. Let's wait until the raid opens up and then we'll really have a good benchmark to use to gauge our classes. Comparing dummy DPS numbers doesn't really mean a whole lot and I've never felt that Extreme Primals were necessarily that great either. Just ask monks from the days when Titan was the endgame.

[Ephemiel]

Just for arguments sake, classes with a good portion of how other classes can play having RNG aspects built in:

Bloodletter CD resetting due to the RNG of your dots crit'ing. 2.0 BLM numbers change wildly depending on RNG Crit and RNG Firestarter/Thundercloud Procs, WHM MP can be saved immensely by RNG free procs to cure 2 and cure 3, 2.0 PLD Bulwark…

It was common to go several rotations and never see a Firestarter at 40%. You might not think so but those free fire 3's really do change how high your numbers would go.

Alright, now weaken those class's damage or, in the WHM's case, heals to the point where people actually say that the healers do more damage [for WHM, idk, imagine stuff like Bloodbath healing more than WHM for the sake of this argument].

I don't mind that it has RNG necessarily, i dislike that that fact i'm forced to stay there using the same ability over and over in the hopes it decides to proc.