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    Nyme's Avatar
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    Nyme Rhem
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    Phoenix
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    Archer Lv 50

    MCH... I'm done.

    Well, what hasn't been said about this class already? I'm not going to be saying the same things that everyone else has already said.

    The purpose of this thread is to tell SE the situation that i have been forced into as a Machinist, after leveling to 60, gearing up and then clearing Bismarck EX, it finally hit me how bad this class actually is and the experience forced me to change jobs back to my DRG.


    I waited for this class ever since it was announced, but after already playing BRD from 2.0 Launch, it hit me straight away that the class we got was just a clone with more rng put in and more micromanaging of your skills, ok fine, i could have lived with this but after seeing how BADLY MCH's (Including myself) parse even against tanks, i just don't want to drag my raid groups down by playing a class that can't compare to any other dps class out there and when they are forced into performing better because of the fact that no matter how lucky and perfect my rotations are, i still can't perform on the level that is required.

    So, thank you Square Enix for creating a new class that is a clone rip-off from another class, putting in rng elements that make you fall asleep and just all around failing the dps players that wanted to play this class.
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    Momotaro Popotaro
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    If they went easy on this RNG... I used Split Shot ten times in a row and never got a proc haha Once i'm 60, i'll go DRG or BLM, i'm done with mch
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    RNG is not a huge factor in DPS, something like 20 to 30. Gauss barrel is weak and low potency skills is the problem.
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    RNG is not a huge factor in DPS, something like 20 to 30. Gauss barrel is weak and low potency skills is the problem.
    I disagree strongfly on the RNG part.

    The RNG is at present costing a ridiculous amount of our damage.

    I'd prefer the ammo system be used to instead add potency or a bonus effect (bleed? something?) to our abilities opposed to the current RNG status. just make it our flat out combo and then add potency through bullets/reload.
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    Snow Ball
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    Bard Lv 70
    Potencies can easily be fixed, unlike other issues.
    Also MCH isn't all that weak people already managing to parse over 1k on a dummy with it where the BRD's are still not getting beyond like 930.

    If there are issues with actual skill kit that's where the worries should lie and MCH kit isn't all that bad as it works together and just needs a few potencies tweaked.
    Unlike BRD which had a Gauss Barrel (WM) thrown into their kit which totally doesn't fit the BRD kit.

    If you'r quitting over not enough dps due to potency, then I suppose gameplay doesn't matter to you.
    Those that quit because of issues with the skill kit I can understand since that's not something which is guaranteed to be changed.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowaeth View Post
    Snip.
    No MCN does 1k dps sustained without a DRG giving them disembowel. Current average right now is any where from 900-950 depending on procs and crits.
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    No MCN does 1k dps sustained without a DRG giving them disembowel. Current average right now is any where from 900-950 depending on procs and crits.
    Not mine, so cut out the names.
    http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/14/22/88/02/mch_pa10.jpg

    That AST is out of party
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowaeth View Post
    Not mine, so cut out the names.
    http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/14/22/88/02/mch_pa10.jpg

    That AST is out of party
    And the AST is doing what, exactly?
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Those DPS cards from AST are no joke.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Those DPS cards from AST are no joke.
    Edit - Misread that parse. Now I see the turret it doing the extra damage. My mistake! Although, why aren't they combining pets?! However, I agree that most of what I see shows that MCH is behind too.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 06-29-2015 at 05:27 AM.

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