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  1. #21
    Player
    GideonHighmourn's Avatar
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    Gideon Highmourn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 74
    In all of the above situations, Asylum or Sacred Soil is still 100% better, because it allows the caster to continue casting heals/DPS.

    Unusable? No.

    Effective in comparison to it's counterparts? No.
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  2. #22
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Garlean Empire
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    Character
    Eros Crux
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    It looks so cool. The first time I saw someone use it I was in awe. So pretty!
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  3. #23
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Character
    Shamirah Zullya
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    it's kinda ok on Ravana ex when he does his super attack (it does not cancel the spell)... but this move already do like no damage so whatever.
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  4. #24
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    Zanhe's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Yunan Cha
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    It's useable, yes, but it's not worth using when you could just use a Helios (diurnal).

    I've used the regen effect only effectively in Bismarck EX while everyone else are on his back.

    I've used the nocturnal sect version in Ravana EX and it's just extremely clunky to have to SPRINT to the center and barely just manage to pop it in time for Laughing Rose, and you can't even use it for both Pillars of Heaven AND Laughing Rose as you would soil.

    It's EXTREMELY NICHE AND NOT WORTH IT as you cannot do anything while channeling, and Scholar/White Mage can use theirs from range with no drawbacks, while healing and properly doing mechanics etc.
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  5. #25
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    tbh on bismarck you should just aspected helios (diurnal stance ofc, don't use nocturnal ever) before everybody jumps on the back and then you dps the carapace/corona and it would be enough.

    I only did it with WHM (so we had both Medica 2 and A. Helios up) but i guess it works the same with a scholar since he can just spread his adloqium (spelling ?) on everyone.
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  6. #26
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Lorelei Diangelo
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    Diurnal Sect with a WHM on Bismarck EX is a little overkill, I think. Rolled it for our first few clears with our static's WHM and we both had close to 40% overhealing for the fight just because of all the regen effects. Did Nocturnal for subsequent clears, and my overheal dropped to a MUCH more acceptable 15% (though hers remained about the same for some reason). I asked my cohort if she felt any more taxed by the swap, and she said no, so I'm thinking Bis just doesn't have enough back to back AOE to make all that regen doubling effective.
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  7. #27
    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Character
    Sanguisio Alorea
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    The diurnal affect isnt that great at all imo, but the nocturnal affect is just to imitate sacred soil for those big aoes.
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  8. #28
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    Alexia89's Avatar
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    Character
    Clara Necris
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I actually got to use Nocturnal CU effectively for the first time tonight- on the last story boss trial (avoiding spoilers).
    When they start their 'ultimate' attack, I threw up an Aspected Helios shield and then popped the bubble- and I gotta admit it felt and looked pretty cool to be physically shielding your party from damage. Was actually fairly effective.

    Shame the skill still sucks due to being too damn situational.

    Edit: It's actually really good for blinding people when you're stacking for hunts, though. Go ahead. Give it a try. When you arrive at a hunt and are waiting for the pull, put up your bubble. Others will follow- and peoples eyes... they will bleed.
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  9. #29
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    Reslon's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Tatsu Jumon
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 74
    It would be nice if CU was a ground targeted channel ability. If I could pick where it pops up at, I wouldn't mind the 18 second channel at all. But having to center it around me really turns it into a niche spell. It is a nice ability on either sect when you hit those few niche moments as mentioned in a post on the second page, but picking where it goes would go a long way to improving it without actually having to change it.
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