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    Kanya Nague
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    wtf are you talking about, if they dont hjave a shield the normal succor or adlo creates as much health as ET, but when they allready have shield, then ET creates more heal.
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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Emergency tactics is an ok spell, you can use it to anticipate heavy raid aoe damage in case you don't have stacks of aetherflow or want to save them for indomitability/lustrates. It's almost always only useful with succor...you almost never want to replace an adloquium for a cure II, however, there are times where you want to replace a succor for a medica. It's not the most powerful spell they have given us, but I wouldn't describe it as useless.

    Dissipation is useless.
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Dissipation is useless.
    Yeah, well, fair enough. I stand corrected. I find ET slightly less useless than Dissipation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Emergency tactics is an ok spell, you can use it to anticipate heavy raid aoe damage in case you don't have stacks of aetherflow or want to save them for indomitability/lustrates. It's almost always only useful with succor...you almost never want to replace an adloquium for a cure II, however, there are times where you want to replace a succor for a medica. It's not the most powerful spell they have given us, but I wouldn't describe it as useless.

    Dissipation is useless.
    I think you are missing the most useful aspect of Emergency Tactics, which is Double adlo when wanting to get a tank up quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    I think you are missing the most useful aspect of Emergency Tactics, which is Double adlo when wanting to get a tank up quickly.
    Ok, I am going to ask again. Why would you want to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Ok, I am going to ask again. Why would you want to do that?
    Adlo is more potent than Physick combined with it's shield, so going Adlo - ET - Adlo (Lustrate/s weaved in if you want) is our best way to get a tank up quickly. That didn't work before because without ET the shield stacked you lost lost half of one of the Adlo's potency, so you'd just never did it.

    Great for after big hits, or if you let em get a little lower during Cleric Stance-ing that you'd generally prefer - either way it's mathematically based on potency and cast times our best way to get a tank up quick from low hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    Great for after big hits, or if you let em get a little lower during Cleric Stance-ing that you'd generally prefer - either way it's mathematically based on potency and cast times our best way to get a tank up quick from low hp.
    I see your point. My problem is that I always do my reasoning assuming I have another healer with me. Most of the time, if the tank has an Adlo up it also has one or more Regen effects. There is no reason to top him off with ET, unless you expect another tank buster right after the first one.
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Ok, I am going to ask again. Why would you want to do that?
    I initially was not a fan of ET because of the same reasons as you - its the same eHP. However it's been very useful for solo healer situations for aoe. It's also helpful if you don't have a lustrate and you need to get someone up before a tank crunch or if theres some kind of top up hp mechanic like certain dooms or the dark knight ability.

    I'd love if they made it instant, but I doubt it will happen and I'd rather dissipate get better honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    I initially was not a fan of ET because of the same reasons as you - its the same eHP.
    It is not the same eHP - it is actually less, unless you are 100% sure you or your partner will not end up overhealing because of it. While I agree it can be used in solo healing situation, I was thinking with a standard raiding setup in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    I think you are missing the most useful aspect of Emergency Tactics, which is Double adlo when wanting to get a tank up quickly.
    In the time it takes to Emergency Tactics + Swiftcast + Adlo your tank is dead. I don't see it working very well as a panic button. If you refer to it as anticipating a tank buster, your best bet is placing an adlo before or in the middle of the channeling of the tank buster and landing another adlo just right after your tank takes the spike damage.
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