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  1. #21
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Think of WoW's farms. You look at it from outside you see yours. You walk in, you get yours.

    All they need is the ability to let others click the signpost and visit others if the permissions are set.

    And EQ2 had instanced housing. And a super huge housing community. There are folks that will build and design/decorate *for* you for in game money ffs.
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  2. #22
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    I agree that there needs to be some sort of solution found for people who want housing but can't get it. One of the main things that drew me to this game was the robust housing system and not even being able to aim for that is maddening. I have no problems with saving up the Gil for a plot but having to check constantly to see if someone in PF is selling or if there is magically a plot abandoned is pretty awful.

    I think there are a few measures that can be taken to mitigate this problem significantly:
    • After 90 days of not being subscribed you are evicted from your house, which demolishes your house, and sends you by mail (or some other system) all the items inside and frees up the plot for anyone to buy. This could also refund the Gil the person spent on the house if people would prefer that.
    • A system for the dynamic creation of wards, when there are (under 5%? under 10%? depending on the internal numbers) plots left, a new ward should be created for people to buy houses in. Likewise if a ward is almost empty wards should be able to be merged (this may end up being difficult because what if 2 wards are filled exactly 50% but they have 1 plot with an owner in it and it cannot be merged?) I have read Square have said that the problem with wards is the server space/processing power is quite significant for them, so this may not be an appropriate solution.
    • 1 Plot per ACCOUNT and 1 Plot per FC(If that isn't already a thing i haven't been able to find it), i have seen 8/9 small plots being owned by the same person and most of them arent even built on, i have absolutely no idea why Square thought this would be a good idea, because people with loads of Gil will take advantage of those with little and jack the prices up 4x, 5x, while im sure this strategy would be appreciated in Ul'dah, in an MMO this means players are being restricted from content they otherwise would be able to access with a significant less amount of resources expended.
    • Finally, they should look at games like Everquest 2 and Lord of the Rings Online (especially Everquest 2) on how to do Housing in a way that makes it accessible and avaliable for everyone who wants a house.

    I understand that it is not a top priority right now to be sorting out the housing system, after all Heavensward just came out and i'm sure they have to concentrate on bug fixing right now, but this is a significant blotch on an otherwise fantastic game.
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    Last edited by CatelynMarigold; 07-03-2015 at 10:51 PM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post

    In a perfect world, SE would give everybody a house of their own that starts off as a small shack and give players the ability to upgrade it into, ultimately, a mansion through crafting/buying upgrades and paying a fee.

    ^ I love the small shack turn into a mansion kind of deal XD I suggested something crazier XD RV like homes. So far fetched though. No worries for plot and the such. >.> Oh housing wards, you are driving me insane.
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  4. #24
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    I really don´t understand why Square Enix choose this housing system for private houses...even if they would implement a system were abounded houses would get back to the market it would never be enough. And its kinda funny how some people on the forum wants to punish the players instead of putting the blame to the ones that created such a poor system.

    A lot of examples for MMOs that have no problems with housing were already posted and its even more sad because one of it even comes from Square Enix...I mean if they really have all those problems with the servers already than I fear what will happen in the future with this game because there will be more an more restrictions. We do already pay a monthly fee and they make money from the cash shop and other merchandise so I really hope that they will put some of it back to get better servers.

    Instanced housing for private houses would be the best way to go. If people want neighbors than they can still have them by having a FC house.

    Like KamikazeMan said it could be that we start with a small instanced house and could work our way towards a mansion or maybe even something bigger. They even could implement it in the story as a quest from the GC leaders that want to thank us for our help against all those dangers we faced for them. I mean in the end we do so much for them but barely get anything back. So this would be a way to say thank you. With that we may choose a place for our house and it could be independent of your own GC so that people don`t need to change their GC if they want a house in another region.

    After that we can make the housing plot bigger and bigger for example by helping a NPC with building up the “neighbor houses” that are only seen (but not really there) next to our houses to make things look livelier. There could have been some kind of natural disaster like a tsunami that hit Limas beach or maybe a dragon attack in Ishgard (if we have private houses there) and we can give them crafted items to help build them back up and in return gain points. And with these points we could buy rare housing items that are restricted to the housing place and buy new license to expand our instanced plots. With this we still have to do some work to upgrade our houses but at least everyone can own a mansion or maybe even an whole island in the end.

    I would even say that you may be able to change the place of you housing plot. Like if you were in Limsa before but wants to go to Gridania than you can pay a big sum of Gil and with that your instanced house is changed to look like a house in Gridania.

    Another change they need to do there is to increase the maximum of the items we can use in our private house. Because this is still to low. Maybe we could even have the instanced rooms the FC has to gain even more room (this would also cost 300k Gil to get the money out of the system) With that we would at least have rooms with their own amount of place able items. But in the end I would be completely happy if they just gave us our private instanced houses, I would even gave up my own private house for a FC if we can have instanced houses, because this would give me a chance to upgrade it without having to buy a medium house or a mansion (if they would make such a system) and I know that finally a FC can have their own house thanks to that.

    Last but not least I want to say something about the gardens and the chocobo stable. I do think that they would have a problem with instanced houses that have a gardens patch and and stable because both have a timer on them. But this would be no problem if they just create stables in the cities that anyone can use. You can go there, give them your chocobo and the items that are needed to train him and than you can take him away again when you want it. When you get there to take it back you than have to pay a specific amount of gil which depends on the time that it was there. With that it would be still cheaper to have a chocobo stable at you FC house but at the same time you can always train him even if you don`t have a FC with their own house and we don't need it in our private houses. The same can be said about gardening. We do have a gardening guild in Gridania and they could implement a NPC which you give the seeds, the necessary soil and pay them gil depending on the worth of the seeds and after a time you can get back to the NPC and get your goods. I am not sure if this can be done with all seeds or if they can use cross breeding but at least you can get some goods from it and you still have the chance for the other ones with your FC gardens. With this FC still matters but at the same time people can still train their chocobos and have some vegetables on their own. And it would be easier for SE with instanced houses because they now will only exist when we will go there and the stables in the cities and the NPC for gardening are much less than if everyone has its own ones in the instanced houses. I mean they already do something like that with the raising of a racer chocobo. We give them the license and after a time we go back to get our chocobo.

    I don`t have knowledge about the technological side of it but since some other MMOs can do that why should SE not be able to do the same especially after it was possible in some way in the much older FF11.

    Sorry for this long post but I wanted to post this idea for a long long time and hopefully someone may get some ideas from it. I hope you liked it. And sorry for my language its not my mother tongue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatelynMarigold View Post
    • After 90 days of not being subscribed you are evicted from your house, which demolishes your house, and sends you by mail (or some other system) all the items inside and frees up the plot for anyone to buy. This could also refund the Gil the person spent on the house if people would prefer that.
    You know I like your list make this something that is only for FC houses with private instanced houses for the other players and this could work really good. Like if nobody of the FC has logged in after a certain time than their house gets demolished and they can get their things back if they may log in again. Since this would only get the FC where no ones plays anymore and it would be not to harsh as a punishment because if they dont even have one person in the FC that can log in once in awhile than it seems like they really don`t need it while with personal houses this could be a little harsh because someone can have some rl problems thats keeping them away.

    Some restrictions needs to be in place for FC houses because even if we may have instanced houses one day there still wont be enough for every FC. Maybe make it that you need a really huge amount of Gil if you want to demolish your house and maybe even a little ban from buying another house directly afterwards and this may stop some of those that just buy them to sell them to others.

    The expansion depending on the need would be great but I fear that its sadly not doable by SE.


    @edit: I totally hate this 1000 limit X_X
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    You make it sound so easy but I bet half of you don't even work with programming and engineering. It isn't that easy. Stop complaining.

    (IT major)
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    Just posting to say I agree that private instanced housing should be a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyenne View Post
    You make it sound so easy but I bet half of you don't even work with programming and engineering. It isn't that easy. Stop complaining.

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    Yes its true that I have no idea about programming and engineering and don´t know if its easy or not. Maybe as a IT major you can tell us why its so hard to do that instead of just telling us to not complaining.
    Its just strange how other games have no problems with it. In RIFT you can have your own dimensions and in Final Fantasy 11 you can have your own instanced mog house. So why did they manage to do instanced houses in own of their own older game and yet it should be so hard to implement here..
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    instanced housing, yes!!
    copy Rift 100% please and allow us to BUILD ..thats BUILD whatever we want =win

    current system rates 1/10 for me, its bottom line basic, non interactive, lacks any creativity for players..and way way too limited in both availability and creative design. It could have been so awesome but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindylou View Post
    instanced housing, yes!!
    copy Rift 100% please and allow us to BUILD ..thats BUILD whatever we want =win

    current system rates 1/10 for me, its bottom line basic, non interactive, lacks any creativity for players..and way way too limited in both availability and creative design. It could have been so awesome but...
    Or WildStar.

    I don't know why SE chose to implement a system that is utterly subpar in pretty much every way.
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