The harp is a lie.

[Travesty]

Yeah, it's just like a bunch of guys in hooded robes flailing a stick around can make all your serious wounds suddenly vanish. Just what kind of game is this anyway?

I don't mean to be rude, but that's a crappy point, honestly.

Magic and mages wielding wands are an accepted, longstanding, and actually pretty logical staple of Final Fantasy and the fantasy genre in general. Bow-harps and bard-archers are not, in the slightest.

[Nikita]

I don't mean to be rude, but that's a crappy point, honestly.

Magic and mages wielding wands are an accepted, longstanding, and actually pretty logical staple of Final Fantasy and the fantasy genre in general. Bow-harps and bard-archers are not, in the slightest.

Honestly, I thought it was a fantastic point. :P Throughout the Final Fantasy series we encounter new worlds, monsters, stories, characters, and even jobs. I really don't see how this can seem outlandish at all, especially in this ever-expanding franchise. If they added bow harps this time around, I personally would welcome it. I already wanted to play Bard, but if they do end up turning out this way, I think I would have even more fun playing it.

[Travesty]

Honestly, I thought it was a fantastic point. :P Throughout the Final Fantasy series we encounter new worlds, monsters, stories, characters, and even jobs. I really don't see how this can seem outlandish at all, especially in this ever-expanding franchise. If they added bow harps this time around, I personally would welcome it. I already wanted to play Bard, but if they do end up turning out this way, I think I would have even more fun playing it.

Name one job in the final fantasy world, that isn't a jack-of-all-trades job, that combines 2 things from so far on the opposite ends of the spectrum as bard and archer? They are categorically different. It's like a ninja white mage. Or a summoner theif.

[AmyRae]

Name one job in the final fantasy world, that isn't a jack-of-all-trades job, that combines 2 things from so far on the opposite ends of the spectrum as bard and archer? They are categorically different. It's like a ninja white mage. Or a summoner theif.

Locke would like to have a word with you...
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff6/...een/maduin.jpg

[Travesty]

Locke would like to have a word with you...
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff6/...een/maduin.jpg

I admit I laughed lol.

But yeaaaah... Espers don't count.

[AmyRae]

I admit I laughed lol.

But yeaaaah... Espers don't count.

I'm just saying, this isn't the first time "unlikely" jobs have been spliced together. You might even say there's a bit of a precedent for this sort of thing. A Final Fantasy tradition, if you will

[Tsuga]

Uh, It's confirmed by Bayohne that it is a bow that "transforms". He said so in response to the speculation about the harp, which seems to confirm that it indeed "transforms" into a harp.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post349656

I don't really see where there's room for speculation, it was pretty much confirmed by a community rep.

Edit: Note, this is in response to the OP, I haven't read the entire thread, so not sure if anybody else brought this post up.

[NoctisUmbra]

I will admit that a good portion of my negativity is based on speculation, but I am not pulling that speculation out of thin air. My speculation is based on actual things Yoshida has said in regards to the job system. I can take all my opinions and speculations point by point with reference to Yoshi's comments if you like.

I won't apologize for my negative view though. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And to everyone who is intolerant of any negativity on these forums you are not being realistic. If you want things to get better it doesn't happen by waiting and seeing.

I wasn't targeting you with that Ferth. Looking back though I understand why it may seem that way. I don't expect an apology from a negative view or anything of the sort. I don't expect anything really.

I'm perfectly fine with posts that may be negative in nature but actually bring up a solid argument as opposed to posts that say "...and then this system will fail and become useless, and then that will be destroyed and eventually the sky will fall on Eorzea." See what i mean by an unyielding sense of foresight?

I can respect a post that points out possible flaws and backs it up. Forget about my respect, it will clearly be something useful for the community reps to read and pass on to the devs unlike typical Armageddon posts.

I don't mean to be rude, but that's a crappy point, honestly.

Magic and mages wielding wands are an accepted, longstanding, and actually pretty logical staple of Final Fantasy and the fantasy genre in general. Bow-harps and bard-archers are not, in the slightest.

Different is bad!

[Travesty]

Different is bad!

No, stupid and silly is bad.