The harp is a lie.

[elreed]

The argument isn't that bard is bad, bard is good, the argument is that "bow harp" weather its in the picture or not, is a very stupid idea, and we all seem to agree on that.

So in a few words just busting the dev team balls for fun?

Go play the game and fill your free time XD

[Travesty]

So in a few words just busting the dev team balls for fun?

Go play the game and fill your free time XD

It's not busting their balls for no reason.

It's busting their balls because, if that is in fact a bow-harp/lyre designed for a Bard class from Archer, this is a really bad idea in almost every conceivable way. Practically and lore-wise it makes no sense, and worse, it's an error in judgement for the implementation of the job system in that's it's trying to fit a job into a class where it doesn't belong. It's also just aesthetically stupid looking.

[elreed]

It's not busting their balls for no reason.

It's busting their balls because, if that is in fact a bow-harp/lyre designed for a Bard class from Archer, this is a really bad idea in almost every conceivable way. Practically and lore-wise it makes no sense, and worse, it's an error in judgement for the implementation of the job system in that's it's trying to fit a job into a class where it doesn't belong. It's also just aesthetically stupid looking.

if i recall correctly corsair was a buffer and had good dmg not as good as ranger but good enough, if they leave dmg on archer as it is, the job itself will be one of the best, best damage+buffs like haste,damage,accuracy,etc.

I dont think its such a bad idea, just weird because is the first time they do it, and maybe next time we'll get ranger.

But ok by me, keep it up.

[D3aTh]

It's not busting their balls for no reason.

It's busting their balls because, if that is in fact a bow-harp/lyre designed for a Bard class from Archer, this is a really bad idea in almost every conceivable way. Practically and lore-wise it makes no sense, and worse, it's an error in judgement for the implementation of the job system in that's it's trying to fit a job into a class where it doesn't belong. It's also just aesthetically stupid looking.

Id just like to ask ... why is that a bad idea?? Did COR was a bad idea on FFXI? Cause to me it seems very similar to have a ARCBARD or a COR... It's a ranged DPS who can debuff/enhance

[Travesty]

Id just like to ask ... why is that a bad idea?? Did COR was a bad idea on FFXI? Cause to me it seems very similar to have a ARCBARD or a COR... It's a ranged DPS who can debuff/enhance

There is nothing wrong with a ranged debuff/buff class. There is something wrong with an archer bard.

Corsair made sense. It was a gambler and the buffs and debuffs included an element of chance, and the weapon was gun. All things that fit the gambler persona. The same cannot be said for an "archer bard." Musician and archer are completely different disciplines which have nothing to do with one another. It's silly and impractical to combine them.

[D3aTh]

There is nothing wrong with a ranged debuff/buff class. There is something wrong with an archer bard.

Corsair made sense. It was a gambler and the buffs and debuffs included an element of chance, and the weapon was gun. All things that fit the gambler persona. The same cannot be said for an "archer bard." Musician and archer are completely different disciplines which have nothing to do with one another. It's silly and impractical to combine them.

Yeah I see and I agree it seems strange but I still find ArcBrd pretty cool. What if it makes music while the arrow get shot? this could give it some sense ^^ Anyway to me w/e weapon it uses, a DD/debuff job will be nice!

[Ferth]

Yeah I see and I agree it seems strange but I still find ArcBrd . What if it makes music while the arrow get shot? this could give it some sense ^^ Anyway to me w/e weapon it uses, a DD/debuff job will be nice!

Thaumaturge could already fill that role, except in it's current form most debuff spells have such a long recast that they aren't worth equipping except for longer fights. (and maybe not even then... oO)

I am in favor of debuffing classes, and corsair was one of my favorite jobs in ffxi... but if the corsair gave buffs through a gun-flute it would have been a different story. The corsair made sense as a gambling gunslinger, buffs from dice, debuffs from cards and a gun for added badassery.

The notion of an archer having to stop, fold up his bow into a lyre, strum out a tune and then unfold his bow again... there is no part of that sequence that makes sense. The whole concept sends up warning flags in my mind, somewhere in the dev team someone is making bad decisions, and they need to be reigned in...

This atrocity shouldn't have ever made it this far into development. It really worries me that it has.

[D3aTh]

Meh again, I agree it's strange but seriously...... It is less than a guy debuffing with... dances...

EDIT: Don't get me bad. I just try to explain it is sad everyone is unhappy when they add real new things... I bet in 3 month everyone will want a ARCBRD in their pt and you will see comments (TP BURN ONLY) XD

[Travesty]

Yeah I see and I agree it seems strange but I still find ArcBrd pretty cool. What if it makes music while the arrow get shot? this could give it some sense ^^ Anyway to me w/e weapon it uses, a DD/debuff job will be nice!

How, IN ANY WAY, does that make sense? Firing an arrow to play an instrument is absurd.

The whole concept of sticking an instrument onto a bow to make a Bard is absurd. I mean hell, if we're gonna do that, how bout we make Pugilist a Samurai. We can give him weapons where 1 of the knuckles is a hilt, and the other is a blade, and when he holds them together JUST RIGHT, they TRANSFORM into a katana! Woo!

No. The idea is ridiculous, just like a transformable instrument-bow.

[AmyRae]

How, IN ANY WAY, does that make sense? Firing an arrow to play an instrument is absurd.

The whole concept of sticking an instrument onto a bow to make a Bard is absurd. I mean hell, if we're gonna do that, how bout we make Pugilist a Samurai. We can give him weapons where 1 of the knuckles is a hilt, and the other is a blade, and when he holds them together JUST RIGHT, they TRANSFORM into a katana! Woo!

No. The idea is ridiculous, just like a transformable instrument-bow.

Yeah, it's just like a bunch of guys in hooded robes flailing a stick around can make all your serious wounds suddenly vanish. Just what kind of game is this anyway?