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    Quote Originally Posted by Seo View Post
    definitely more likely a lyre than a harp if it is infarct an instrument... maybe its a lazer
    Can't be a lyre, the bowstring is thinner than they are and there are heads on them. Bowstrings are pretty damn thick so if that's supposed to be a lyre it would be in superbass if you could get good vibrations off them at all. If they aren't there for purely aesthetic purposes, they're crossbow bolts, which are MUCH shorter than arrows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    Can't be a lyre, the bowstring is thinner than they are and there are heads on them. Bowstrings are pretty damn thick so if that's supposed to be a lyre it would be in superbass if you could get good vibrations off them at all. If they aren't there for purely aesthetic purposes, they're crossbow bolts, which are MUCH shorter than arrows.
    It's not a manufacturing blueprint, it's concept art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    Can't be a lyre, the bowstring is thinner than they are and there are heads on them. Bowstrings are pretty damn thick so if that's supposed to be a lyre it would be in superbass if you could get good vibrations off them at all. If they aren't there for purely aesthetic purposes, they're crossbow bolts, which are MUCH shorter than arrows.
    And you think this device is equipped to shoot these bolts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    It's not a manufacturing blueprint, it's concept art.
    You're RIGHT
    And PUG is a Dragon Warrior because she had dragons for hands. But you're right we need to look at Archer more. Nope I can't get away from the DRAGONS FOR HANDS on the PUG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    And you think this device is equipped to shoot these bolts?
    Considering Crossbows use the same underlying mechanics as bows and its been confirmed to transform then yes, it could. A crossbow is essentially a mechanized bow at the cost of range. Let's have a composite longbow, not as effective at close range, that can turn into a crossbow, much more effective at close ranges and less effective at longer ranges.
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    Last edited by Zetonegi; 09-23-2011 at 09:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    Considering Crossbows use the same underlying mechanics as bows and its been confirmed to transform then yes, it could. A crossbow is essentially a mechanized bow at the cost of range. Let's have a composite longbow, not as effective at close range, that can turn into a crossbow, much more effective at close ranges and less effective at longer ranges.
    Most of that post is pretty accurate, EXCEPT your allegation of Bows not being as effective as Crossbows in close range.

    The bow in the hands of a trained archer is devastating, at hand-to-hand fighting both weapons are largely useless but real crossbows take an inordinate amount of time to reload... longer than single firing muskets even.

    The only benefit crossbows had over long bows was that you didn't need to spend most of your life training to use one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    Most of that post is pretty accurate, EXCEPT your allegation of Bows not being as effective as Crossbows in close range.

    The bow in the hands of a trained archer is devastating, at hand-to-hand fighting both weapons are largely useless but real crossbows take an inordinate amount of time to reload... longer than single firing muskets even.

    The only benefit crossbows had over long bows was that you didn't need to spend most of your life training to use one.
    I never said the archers weren't good with bows at close range just the crossbows are better at that range, being easier to aim and fired faster because repeating crossbows could be fired damn fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    I never said the archers weren't good with bows at close range just the crossbows are better at that range, being easier to aim and fired faster because repeating crossbows could be fired damn fast.
    That's a misconception Cross bows are actually slower, due to load times, and have a longer range than a standard short bow.
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