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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70

    Are DPS check mechanics too biased against mages?

    After trying Bismarck EX yesterday as a SMN, I cannot help but wonder if the devs are designing these DPS checks with a bias towards melee and (to some degree) ranged attack jobs. Those who play SMN know that getting our damage out requires time (I can only imagine what BLMs are going through) and part of our arsenal is not immediate damage. It almost seems a lot to ask mages to be able to burn down the Sanuwas when we're saddled with long casting times and those damned tornadoes giving us little room for error.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Run to where you spawn in on the arena, or on the opposite side where you're ready to jump onto Bismark's back. Guaranteed no tornados there. You have plenty of time too to manually DoT up one of the snakes before it puts the debuff up, and if it's the opposite snake, just Tri-disaster it with DWT up (if you use DWT at the start of the back then theoretically you'll have it up again early, if not at the start of the DPS check), if it's the same, Contagion and go about your business
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Wouldn't hurt to let casters move while casting.
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Wouldn't hurt to let casters move while casting.
    They don't even let bards do that any more

    /bitter
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    Yaelle Portelaine
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    As melee I think the same thing about ranged.
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    As melee I think the same thing about ranged.
    Not anymore!
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    /upset
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    Iam Groot
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    Slide casting is a thing.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    After trying Bismarck EX yesterday as a SMN, I cannot help but wonder if the devs are designing these DPS checks with a bias towards melee and (to some degree) ranged attack jobs. Those who play SMN know that getting our damage out requires time (I can only imagine what BLMs are going through) and part of our arsenal is not immediate damage. It almost seems a lot to ask mages to be able to burn down the Sanuwas when we're saddled with long casting times and those damned tornadoes giving us little room for error.
    ppl save CDS in bismark once u learn the encounter , u will be more than fine , SMN have some awesome burst now ¬¬

    and how is bismark better for ranged when u need to be on melee range to dmg the boss? u mean tornado phase? there are safe spots for casters that u can use to nuke to your hearth content
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Slide casting is a thing.
    You have to wait til it's about 20-30 seconds til cast before doing that though.
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    I'd argue SMN are the most equipment dps for both ex primal fights.
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