Can you please provide some sort of challenge while questing? Leveling is horrible!

[Airget]

Think you aren't keeping in mind is if you are donning IL 130 gear of course it's going to feel easy, you are pretty much a lv 50 in 56-58 gear. Personally I didn't need to replace my il 135 katana til lv 58 so in a sense it's telling me that while I was leveling from 50-58 I was pretty much wielding an insanely powerful weapon.

If you want challenge, then limit the gear you wear, of course the game is going to be easier if you wear stronger gear, just like an rpg gets easier when you find better loot to use against bosses.

[ScarecrowJames]

"Harder" leveling? What in the hells are you talking about?

Leveling is, never was, and never will be "hard". What you're wanting is it to be monotonous, tedious, and no less than a chore unless you sit in a piss boring FATE group all day.

Wait..wait a sec...isn't it already that?
I understand thats just how mmos are. Not everything is not boring. I wish it wasn't like that but we also can't have ppl just advancing to 60 either in mins.

[Sylve]

I can tell you, leveling as a machinist is definitely more dangerous. Relatively low dps + no self healing/damage protection skills whatsoever = lose half health by the time you defeat one enemy and don't even try to face two.

Pull 2, drop Bishop Turret and let it tank the add.
My chocobo is out in healer mode permanently while i'm questing. I even get EXP chains when quest mobs are close together.

As a MCH, takes me 20 - 30 seconds to kill a mob my level (Choco doesnt attack at all) so i really do think its a case of PEBKAC

[Elim]

A challenge? You mean, like, better hidden moogles?

DEAR GOD NO!

*rocks back and fourth* moogles make elim go something something

[Catwho]

I never though I'd see the day when I hate moogles, but it arrived at level 57.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Think you aren't keeping in mind is if you are donning IL 130 gear of course it's going to feel easy, you are pretty much a lv 50 in 56-58 gear. Personally I didn't need to replace my il 135 katana til lv 58 so in a sense it's telling me that while I was leveling from 50-58 I was pretty much wielding an insanely powerful weapon.

If you want challenge, then limit the gear you wear, of course the game is going to be easier if you wear stronger gear, just like an rpg gets easier when you find better loot to use against bosses.

I stopped playing after titan extreme was added, so I was ilevel 90. Quests provide me ilevel 125 (the boring quests I'm doing are providing me that gear), and reducing my gear level will make only SLOWER something that it's boring, the challenge will increase and the reward decrease, which is not great (in this case, usually I'm fine, but leveling overall is extremely weak)

Wait..wait a sec...isn't it already that?
I understand thats just how mmos are. Not everything is not boring. I wish it wasn't like that but we also can't have ppl just advancing to 60 either in mins.

1) Why not, I mean, questing in any case is not getting interesting, so this is forcing people to stay lower levels, drop the game or something similar for the sake of... teaching them something? I don't believe so, I'm a healer and I spend 99% of time doing dps. And when I need to heal, I cast one healing spell and I'm done.
2) I don't really ask for fast leveling, but to make it more interesting, currently is just plain boring, the quest are REALLY weak (I remember I found a few interesting in ARR, in Heavensward I'm back to WoW world where you gather poo and kill random mobs. Also it was asked me to kill chocobo, I really disliked that.)
3) If they are not good enough to make leveling at least interesting (and there are mmos with good leveling), at least make it short, I already spent 20 hours and the game is still boring, an AAA single player game usually finishes at that point with a lot of fun, not with a lot of FARM :P

I work during week, so when I play my 32 hours on weekend (lol), I want to have fun, instead I really KEEP TRYING doing xp but I keep getting bored and switching game, sigh.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

I stopped playing after titan extreme was added, so I was ilevel 90. Quests provide me ilevel 125 (the boring quests I'm doing are providing me that gear), and reducing my gear level will make only SLOWER something that it's boring, the challenge will increase and the reward decrease, which is not great (in this case, usually I'm fine, but leveling overall is extremely weak)



1) Why not, I mean, questing in any case is not getting interesting, so this is forcing people to stay lower levels, drop the game or something similar for the sake of... teaching them something? I don't believe so, I'm a healer and I spend 99% of time doing dps. And when I need to heal, I cast one healing spell and I'm done.
2) I don't really ask for fast leveling, but to make it more interesting, currently is just plain boring, the quest are REALLY weak (I remember I found a few interesting in ARR, in Heavensward I'm back to WoW world where you gather poo and kill random mobs. Also it was asked me to kill chocobo, I really disliked that.)
3) If they are not good enough to make leveling at least interesting (and there are mmos with good leveling), at least make it short, I already spent 20 hours and the game is still boring, an AAA single player game usually finishes at that point with a lot of fun, not with a lot of FARM :P

I work during week, so when I play my 32 hours on weekend (lol), I want to have fun, instead I really KEEP TRYING doing xp but I keep getting bored and switching game, sigh.

I hope you realize this is all very subjective right? Personally, I've been having a blast leveling. The story itself is amazing and even the sidequest are interesting and more involved lore/storywise than arr's were.

Fate's wise noones doing HW fates because they give crap for xp. Everyone goes to northern thanalan and just farms those instead. Its just one of the things they need to tune within the coming patches along with leve/temple leve xp in the new areas.

I honestly have no idea what mmo you could possibly be talking about that has "good leveling". From what I've experienced at least, every mmo has pretty close to the same leveling experience with some notable exceptions that have an interesting story to go with it... or the opposite and have bare bones nothing.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

I hope you realize this is all very subjective right? Personally, I've been having a blast leveling. The story itself is amazing and even the sidequest are interesting and more involved lore/storywise than arr's were.

Fate's wise noones doing HW fates because they give crap for xp. Everyone goes to northern thanalan and just farms those instead. Its just one of the things they need to tune within the coming patches along with leve/temple leve xp in the new areas.

I honestly have no idea what mmo you could possibly be talking about that has "good leveling". From what I've experienced at least, every mmo has pretty close to the same leveling experience with some notable exceptions that have an interesting story to go with it... or the opposite and have bare bones nothing.

It's not an excuse to make terrible leveling here too, the main story last "few seconds" compared to all the sidequests required to level up, guildhests disappeared (which was something I liked to level up), hunting log didn't update (I preferred that over quests) and final fantasy in general has a very lacking gameplay in "single player", compared to other mmos, while it's good in multiplayer, but basically they force you to do XP alone unless you make fates.

I'll try tomorrow with northern thanalan

[ScarecrowJames]

i skip the text for the story and side quest because I find it to be below average and to me uninteresting. You just play fetch and perform the dirty work while npcs play the part in the story while you are a mere slave getting praise from npcs for following a set path.

I just level because im accustomed to the grind. If it wasn't for the Final Fantasy name and common characters derived from it im not sure I would be playing it because the combat is really simple and nothing more than remember boss patterns. I like the combat its more a chill relaxed against fighting games. It feels quite casual. and for that I like it but Final Fantasy keeps me in.

[XxSliphxX]

That's the only challenge in quests, currently. Find the person you have to speak to.

Whoever came up with this idea needs to be fired. There is nothing fun nor challenging about having to play where's waldo with npc's. It's a needless time sink in a game already full of needless time sinks.