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    Mhikail's Avatar
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    A real challenge is not to be utterly pissed at these God dang Moogles.
    IS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING?
    How many times has those little assfluffs lost their damn nuts or basket's?
    It's the same stupid Moogle losing the same crap! XDD!
    Mognuts Mognerd Mognoob.
    Same ones losing the same crap and they always go off somewhere and go "Oh...well I should go back home now"
    Spoiler: They never go home, they run around and do the same hide and seek crap with a missin' nut somewhere in between.
    One almost died of like Heat Exhuration and says 'I don't think I can last much longer' goes half across the map and almost get ate 5 mins later.
    STOP THE MADNESS!!!
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
    A real challenge is not to be utterly pissed at these God dang Moogles.
    IS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING?
    They are so transparently manipulative. It's almost parody level. "Hi there hero, I'm a lazy flying popple, please do my chores cause that's what adventurers are for amirite?"


    (never mind the fact that they were both cowering)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    What you're saying is counter-intuitive. You say you want more challenge to "make it fun" because leveling is slow. And you're ok with leveling being slow if it's fun. But making the monsters harder to kill isn't going to make it fun, it's going to make it more tedious. The only thing they could do to make it more "fun" would be to have different mechanics other than "fetch this, kill these". Because the "fetch this, kill these" mechanics are what you are saying are boring. Making them take longer to kill isn't going to magically make that more fun.

    If you want to have more fun, then skip the side quests. Just do the MSQ and fill in the rest of your XP with Hunts, Dungeons, Challenge log, etc.
    More challenging doesn't mean "Increase the HP BAR", I've said I can accept it being slower if they are more challenging. Challenge is what makes a game interesting usually, but you can be challenged with anything: a puzzle, a platform section, a mob fight, whatever. I don't have any details on how to make them more challenging, it's not my job, but I played various games when you can die from trashes, not only from bosses.
    Damn, even the first super Mario had more challenging trash mobs, LOL!

    That being said, I accept your suggestions on the other stuff, although you must explain me a bit more because I'm a noob from level 51 to 60, so I don't know exactly:

    1) I can do dungeons, but usually after 6th time it gets boring (can be more if dungeon is well done, but so far I faced only 2 dungeons and I'm in the process of facing the third one, after dinner)
    2) Hunts: I thought these were only a level 60 thing. How can I get those? What can I do? I thought the Hunting Log wasn't used from level 50 to 60, I was very disappointed not having that available, was a good source of Xp, is there anything similar?
    3) Challenge log, I have no idea what is that, can you describe?

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    If you hate that, you're going to hate the Moogles muchly.

    To be honest I like the quests that have their own little storyline (the Chocobo Hunters with the Newbie Miqo'te Chocobo hunter keeps going up to level 58)


    (presented out of context to avoid spoilers)

    ... but I hate the back-and-forth to the same spots over and over. It's less annoying once you get the Chocobo to fly. But keep in mind that that specific zone has no less than three sets of quest givers, so you'll spend a lot of time there and in the next area just doing all the side quests for experience.

    As for how SE could improve stuff to be more challenging...

    More of those "instanced" storyline type of combat would be fine in the optional quests. As far as I can tell, I don't think there are any in the optional quests, they only exist in the job quests and the MSQ. I know some people hate storyline, but I find the combat storyline bits to be fun, albeit they can only be done once.
    If the moogles parth is the one level 53-55, I've finished it today. Not sure how I survived that, though, but I'm sure I hate moogles now.

    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    I wish to say go play another games OP. Really tired with so many complaints.
    I think only me who found that this Game is good mmo with casual and solo content.

    This mmo is suitable for busy player who still want to play mmo, there are many games out there for people who have no life that you can choose.
    This is not a casual mmorpg, unless you skip ENTIRELY the leveling and you play minigames only.
    Leveling is long and once you get to maximum level, dungeons become difficult.
    Sure you can play it casually, but not only you'll get nothing (there are many more fun games that you can play and get more from as a casual gamer, not to mention cheaper) good out of it. Yeah you can play it casually if you are a Final Fantasy fan, but if you are not, this game doesn't fit at all.

    Believe me, I played ARR with my girlfriend, I'm a gamer since ages, she "started" only recently (well, 5 years now), and once we reached level cap, the big skill difference came into play, she struggled with basic dungeons while I was breezing through them and moving toward Coil (which was very challenging for me too), so I don't see how this can be handled casually. And she even trained a lot, she managed to defeat Titan hard, but what required me few days, required her a week of training. So no, it's not for casual players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-Dragon-DoL View Post
    If the moogles parth is the one level 53-55, I've finished it today. Not sure how I survived that, though, but I'm sure I hate moogles now.
    They actually keep going, even at level 58, but they're not an endless inane chain by that point. I had to call out the Moogles quests because what initially seemed like it would be fun, turned into what seemed like "Adventurers are idiots, let's see what humiliating things we can make them do" which was evident as soon as you were given the initial 3 trials.

    Like I loathe "hide-and-seek" quests, because most of them are "How do you keep an adventurer busy? You give them a 2D location on the map, but hide it on the Z-axis" I think there's no less than 4 of these hide-and-seek quests in the moogle area alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-Dragon-DoL View Post
    Snip.
    Hmmm...
    I don't want to drag this into a endless argument, just for the notice.
    This game is not that hard, the content is mediocre the real issue here is time gating.

    For busy player like me I like this game because I still can enjoy the game while doing the content with my tight schedule. I clear t9 & t13 by using DF only not really need a static group, the difficulty will be less if u keep doing it because the rotation is same.

    Wildstar is more suitable for hardcore player, I quit that game because I can't have a commitment with my static.
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    Uhm that is concerning. I come from when t5 was last one and you definitely couldn't clear t4 and t5 without a proper static.

    And by the way, I am a busy player, I work all day and those 4 hours I play I want to enjoy game at maximum, that's why I complain with questing, because I have short time and it takes a lot to reach the enjoyable part.
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