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  1. #71
    Player
    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Wild fire barely breaks 5k now. nice adjustment/fix wildfire was one of are hardest hitting move now it lost a lot of dmg
    stance dancing is no longer an option during fights.

    if any mch didn't abandon the class already they will be doing that now

    edit: kept trying but just barely hit 6k on a rotation opener for wildfire now takes a lot more effort and hopeful for crits to hit higher numbers. overall seems to been hit by big defense wall almost. where's before I almost always had a 6k+ opener and maybe even more.
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    Last edited by Shhikasan; 06-30-2015 at 10:25 PM.

  2. #72
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chek View Post
    Excuse me for bumping in here since I have nothing invested in MCH (though I wish you guys luck cause its a cool looking class), but do we even have an ENG translation team that watches here? I never see any posts. I love this game but one of the crappy parts about playing a Japanese MMO is I feel like my voice pretty much has no sound at all.
    If you go to the main Forum page (on a computer; not sure if it shows up on a mobile device), on the right-hand side of the page you should see a column of posts labeled "Dev Tracker". These are ALL posts by English-speaking representatives of SE. At the moment I write this, the Dev Tracker is filled mostly with entries regarding the Heavensward FC Recruitment Video contest BUT it is not at all unusual to see them directly addressing player concerns.

    Something to bear in mind, though, Devs don't respond to ALL player concerns for several very good reasons. They will only respond if they a. know the answer, b. are allowed to share the answer, and c. are reasonably sure that the answer won't cause a flame war to erupt. My guess right now, on the topic of machinist, there are NO plans currently in place to change Machinist. So, they say nothing, because answering would cause c. (and likely also because of b.).

    Why are there no plans? They may have other, higher priorities at the moment. They may feel (possibly correctly) that players have not yet stumbled upon the best way to utilize the job. Or, it's possible that there ARE plans, but SE is still testing them and doesn't want to prematurely get folks hopes up in the event that those changes don't work out.

    There's no harm in posting one's grievances to the forums. The devs DO read a lot of them (not all - there's only so many of them, and they have other jobs than just reading the forums all day long). Just because you don't see a response, though, doesn't necessarily mean that the devs aren't reading, or don't care.
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  3. #73
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    MrSmiley's Avatar
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    I dont feel like leveling another class, this makes me not even want to play...soon healers will outdamage us as well
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  4. #74
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    Chek's Avatar
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    Carde Graves
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
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    No, yeah, I understand. Its just that compared to other MMOs that are western, I feel completely unheard here. I mean is Mr. English Forum Guy going to tell Yoshi P that I hate Triple Triad's new scoring system? Because over in TESO or WoW or something I can guarantee a dev will see something I say, whereas here, not so much.

    Not saying my opinion is important or anything, but its still nice to know someone important CAN see stuff.
    (3)

  5. #75
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    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    I dont feel like leveling another class, this makes me not even want to play...soon healers will outdamage us as well
    they already have been able to do so with this hotfix they can easily outdmg us
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  6. #76
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chek View Post
    No, yeah, I understand. Its just that compared to other MMOs that are western, I feel completely unheard here. I mean is Mr. English Forum Guy going to tell Yoshi P that I hate Triple Triad's new scoring system? Because over in TESO or WoW or something I can guarantee a dev will see something I say, whereas here, not so much.

    Not saying my opinion is important or anything, but its still nice to know someone important CAN see stuff.
    Do you think that even in the JP forums, the devs there are bringing every tidbit directly to Yoshi P's doorstep? Of course not. They have a chain of command, just the same as on this side of the pond.

    As for comparing to Western MMOs, I doubt that it's any different. While I don't know who the director of World of Warcraft is, I find it hard to believe that he or she personally addresses every thread on the Blizzard forums either. It might be possible for smaller MMOs with less-active forums, but for large-scale games like WoW or FFXIV it's simply not possible to bring every issue straight to the top.

    The forum monitors pick and choose what they pass up the line, both in the English Forums and those of other languages. Sometimes they even tell us that they've done so:

    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Thanks for the feedback concerning the current method of upgrading the armor and weapons that can be purchased with Allagan tomestones of law.

    I have relayed your feedback and suggestions to the development team.
    There's likely a lot of stuff that gets reported without actually telling the players, though. The forum monitors likely write up periodic reports regarding the general playerbase climate, concerns the players have, stuff that players particularly liked, that kind of thing. It's speculation on my part, but it makes sense; only a dev could say for certain what their business processes are, and it's likely that they're not allowed to talk too much about those processes.

    You are not unheard. But you ARE one voice in a crowd of thousands.
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    Last edited by LineageRazor; 06-30-2015 at 11:38 PM.

  7. #77
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    Alise's Avatar
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    Alise Reinhart
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    In the previous progression run from Bahamut raid, TP song/ MP song was necessary that is why every party need a bard or two.

    If they make it so that the whole party gonna lack TP/MP again then, MCH and BRD will be needed regardless of their low dps.
    (0)

    FFXIV : ARR all instance boss gameplay video can be found here..
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Arikameow/videos?shelf_index=0&sort=dd&view=0

  8. #78
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    In the previous progression run from Bahamut raid, TP song/ MP song was necessary that is why every party need a bard or two.

    If they make it so that the whole party gonna lack TP/MP again then, MCH and BRD will be needed regardless of their low dps.
    brd does more damage and restores more mp to boot, mch support is inferior
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  9. #79
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    Conleth Cirino
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    MCH are already being booted from dungeons/ex primals.

    They're also not even being welcomed in.

    They're getting flamed.

    DEVS. Waiting until Alexander is released won't do!

    Please! So many of us will be excluded.

    We're already being discarded... please do something.
    (2)

  10. #80
    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Chibilidawg View Post
    MCH are already being booted from dungeons/ex primals.

    They're also not even being welcomed in.

    They're getting flamed.

    DEVS. Waiting until Alexander is released won't do!

    Please! So many of us will be excluded.

    We're already being discarded... please do something.
    Also a bit about waiting for player feedback from Alexander before committing any further changes
    From the reddit post this morning, the response on the JP forums. Absolutely ridiculous
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