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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100

    New Bard feedback

    Ive tried using Wanderer's Minuet a lot recently, and I must say Im very resentful of this new change. Bard was my favorite job because of its mobility, but this new song would see us basically become a caster and most (if not all) our new actions require this new song.
    Im actually considering quitting the job I loved so much, just wanted to give SE my feedback. Others may like the new song. I personally do not want to be restricted, so I'll likely be swapping to a different main job.
    Good luck my fellow Bards
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    Faust Eisenhart
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    Machinist Lv 60
    No one's making you use it, y'know.
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    Cakeny Soulreaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    No one's making you use it, y'know.
    Except I imagine content is tuned on basis they would be using all their abilities.
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    Hyunckel Xanadu
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    Anyone can confirm that Mage's Ballad or whatever the name of that song to regen MP DOES NOT work on a Dark Knight when he is in his + DMG % up + MP USED up stance ? (Dark Side or something, can't log in at the moment).

    That's what the DRK ability tooltip seemed to mean to me anyway.

    Would be pretty cool otherwise, that would add another reason besides healers / casters to play this song now
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    Last edited by Hyunckel; 06-20-2015 at 08:43 PM.
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    Miah Dakwhil
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 60
    SE needs to update their archer lore/info on the lodestone.

    Archers constantly assess the battlefield in order to determine the most advantageous ground from which to loose their arrows, as well as the nature of the shaft, point, and fletching best suited to their foe.
    Needs to say:
    Archers are staked to the battlefield with a stick up their ass if they want to use higher weapon skills.
    Nature of the shaft? oh yeah.. we gots the shaft all right. Not as bad as the BLM
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    I still feel like I 'm the only one who likes this song... I can move plenty with it on and it's not like I NEED to move every second of the battle.
    If I need to move for longer than a second, it comes off, not hard.
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    I still feel like I 'm the only one who likes this song... I can move plenty with it on and it's not like I NEED to move every second of the battle.
    If I need to move for longer than a second, it comes off, not hard.
    Your not the only one buddy. I've been using it in Dust Vigil, Sal w/e the heck that dungeon name is, and Aeryl? So far I have no problem with the cast, especially if you know how to work with the casting delay (Move but still get the cast off).

    To others:

    Its not like OGCD isnt a thing, You can still weave them in efficiently, Heck if you get a Straighter Shot proc, there is no cast time for that skill if you get the proc. The cast(s) is only 1.5 seconds which is significantly shorter than both the casters. If you really wanted to move a few steps, than just move when you use a OGCD. I suggest everyone to have WM on an easy accessible button so you can toggle it on and off easily. Me for example have it Hotbar 2 button 2. Easy to hit that button when needed to turn it off in high mobile fights and to re-apply. The barrage change may seem crazy at first, but when you look at the skills you get after 52, you can kind of understand why. If they left it alone BRD will be pretty high up there in DPS. Barrage works on any single target Weaponskill, so using it on Empyreal Arrow is probably the most efficient.

    All in all, I feel like with the current stuff, BRD is able to burst a bit and sustain pretty high dps if you know how to while before, after your burst period your DPS takes a huge dip on the graph. If you already know how to BRD before WM, IMO, all this skill can do to you is improve your overall DPS. With the new stuff that comes along with WM, I think brds are able to sustain pretty good DPS instead of taking a huge dip on the graph after a Burst period. We're able to 240 Potency every 15 seconds and a 350 Potency every minute rather than a constant rate of 150.
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    Last edited by ExiaQuanta; 06-21-2015 at 12:55 AM.

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    Miah Dakwhil
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 60
    Exia: Let me ask you this then with regards to the song: how are you liking it in the field against the open world mobs or FATEs? In the dungeons you have a tank to take aggro so you don't have to worry too much about the close in cones and such, but in the open world I normally am having to move constantly around to avoid the cone attacks, etc. I get the feeling i'm going to be taking alot more damage than I otherwise would just so i can use these new skills.

    Chek: If i wanted to do the Caster Two-step.. i would've been a caster :P
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miah_Dakwhil View Post
    Exia: Let me ask you this then with regards to the song: how are you liking it in the field against the open world mobs or FATEs? In the dungeons you have a tank to take aggro so you don't have to worry too much about the close in cones and such, but in the open world I normally am having to move constantly around to avoid the cone attacks, etc. I get the feeling i'm going to be taking alot more damage than I otherwise would just so i can use these new skills.

    Chek: If i wanted to do the Caster Two-step.. i would've been a caster :P
    Well, when talking about the aspect of open-field play and Solo play, the song isn't required. I mean I do use it out in the open here and there just to see, its not really much a problem But what im assuming everyone is talking about is in the view of Raids. If your only going 1 on 1 with a new mob, it shouldnt be a problem though yea you might take a lot of damage but I think atm everyone is taking a lot of damage lol. So When you're soloing don't really matter if you use it or not but definitely consider using it when your with a proper party set up.
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    Last edited by ExiaQuanta; 06-21-2015 at 01:08 AM.

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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Such saltyness!

    Honestly, I have a feeling there will be times where this Song is useful, and times where this song is a Hindrance, so alternating between using them, and holding off will likely be come practice. I'll likely treat it like "Sniper Mode" when I get around to catching up Bard to my main classes/characters.
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