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  1. #181
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asheloux View Post
    In general, there are people who have never been into hunts. Hunt FCs/LSs are their own, separate community (especially on Balmung) and it really does lock out other players who want in on the action. The main LSs kick people out of the LSs if they're offline and they're almost impossible to get back into. There are people who prefer raid/dungeon content over open world. The Hunt community for groups is ridiculous (on Balmung) and almost impossible to get into (on Balmung) unless you know someone who knows someone....it's very limiting.
    Balmung is a actually extremely easy to get into the "Bounty Hunters" LS (The one you're referring to), however the issue is most people just /sh and expect an instant-LS invite.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...4222880705525/

    use this link to find the leaders of Bounty Hunters and send them a tell. It's a little more work but honestly, I have never been unable to get in when I wanted to be in Bounty Hunters. Though this might be a more recent symptom with so many people at 60 that it gets full again, this was a problem back when they first started. However, since they constantly remove people, it shouldn't be.


    Post-Edit in, and additional Thoughts:

    I do want to add, I think that the hunting community is extremely disgusting at times. There are multiple issues that I take note of:

    People will blame people for "early pulling" and will complain loudly in chat. However, I have been in zone when the initial shout went up, and they waited 3-4 minutes. That is more than enough time to get to just about anywhere in this game, even with load times, unless we're talking instanced content.

    I find these people who yell about early pulls to be far more toxic than anyone else. The people who they oft accuse of "Early pulling" don't even respond, meanwhile I've seen these self-same people calling those who 'pulled early' some of the most disgusting words I have ever seen. To those of you that think that "Early Pullers" are toxic, please keep yourself in check in this regard - as I find it absolutely disgusting the way you treat people you don't know just because you missed a fight.

    I also find the Witchhunting within LS's to be outright rediculous. I know that the Leaders of Boutny Hunters have an entire LS for their leaders which is basically a witchhunting LS. I know that people will shout names using <tt> macro's to try and call out people who "Pulled early", often blaming high-threat classes such as Warriors for a pull just because they know how to pull threat.

    I have seen people who, just by spreading a rumor, will get blamed for early pulling When they are not even in the same zone as the hunt mob. It is outright rediculous just how far players go to try and point their finger and cry "Unfair" without showing an ounce of concern for their fellow humans.



    You guys want Hunts to be better? Stop complaining in shout. Stop hunting your fellow hunters and focus on the mobs. If you find yourself struggling to get to a hunt target, then just relax and go do something else. There is plenty of content in the game right now that you don't require to spam hunts.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 07-01-2015 at 09:16 AM.

  2. #182
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
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    Agree with pretty much everything you said there. BH LS is really easy to get into. Just add a leader or two who's usually online the same time you are to your friend list and send a tell when you want back in. For early pulls, I was apparently accused of hopping off my mount and early pulling a west highlands A rank the other day when what actually happened is that I landed, waited over a full minute (having walked into the zone from Ishgard, iirc), then ran around to the mob's backside and attacked when I saw someone initiate action. But, no, according to the angry /sh people, I pulled as soon as I got there and am a horrible person. >_>
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  3. #183
    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    V'aleera Lhuil
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    You guys want Hunts to be better? Stop complaining in shout.
    "You want a turd to be better? Stop smelling it before you eat it."
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  4. #184
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    "You want a turd to be better? Stop smelling it before you eat it."
    More like,

    "You dont' want to smell a turd? Stop ****ing in the middle of the street and then bending over to closely examine your own work."

    The people who complain in shout often add far more to the toxicity than the people who "Early pull", if they even do that.

    I dont' think Hunts are perfect. But I think the community exhasperates an open wound.
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  5. #185
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    ckc22's Avatar
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    Did they design the gear to be so roll faced that people just sit around and wait for hunts to pop using I will say third party apps against TOS or some website....to be truthful.....they are using a third party app called G@$ldW$#ks which completely ruins the concept of hunts.
    I've been actively hunting and watched something pop and been the only person anywhere nearby and seen a shout with its location within seconds despite no one else being able to even see the mob. It's total bull. And when you call these people out in shout they of course don't answer because they know they're cheating.
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  6. #186
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    Stormrider's Avatar
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    Miner Lv 60
    A weird question since we are talking about 3rd party apps. Anyone see the message pop in party chat with pos and everything like it was an automated response? As if the player was not responsible. Because I can't see people hitting a hunt macro during a boss fight as often as it happens.
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  7. #187
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    Kuroneko_Jutah's Avatar
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    Kuroka Jyuuta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    A weird question since we are talking about 3rd party apps. Anyone see the message pop in party chat with pos and everything like it was an automated response? As if the player was not responsible. Because I can't see people hitting a hunt macro during a boss fight as often as it happens.
    Someone more than likely heard through a linkshell/fc chat and used <flag >. It's not hard to macro. I have one on a hotbar that I use for hunt mobs I happen across while flying/traveling/whathaveyou
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  8. #188
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    RhemaGlassjaw's Avatar
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    Rhema Glassjaw
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    Ragnarok
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    I aggree, heck I would be willing to do the random fate drops again. But not hunts... Please not the hunts. ;.; Any other way!
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  9. #189
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    Cirgellon's Avatar
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    Cirgellon Dailemont
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    I don't think it could get any easier than hunting A/S.
    It clearly isn't that easy if you feel the need to complain about it...

    There is no toxicity if you don't fight in chat and ignore those who have problems.

    My opinion is that this complainjng is all for nothing. I doubt hunts will be the only way to obtain the best gear after the raid is released.
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  10. #190
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    Edellis's Avatar
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    A/S-rank hunt

    15 leve allowances to partake, once a week, retry until killed

    instanced find for the person who has the quest and whomever is in his party. "unable to attack" message for outsiders, the same as a story or levequest.

    No having to worry about stealing, early pulling, fast killing, over farming, trolls or douchebags.


    No amount of HP will EVER prepare the hunt for the amount of zerg death it's about to receive. Its rewards are simply too good. They should just gate the quest behind leves or something to control the encounter. Otherwise, it's always just going to be bad, frustrating, unexciting and overly tedious to participate in.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 07-07-2015 at 03:28 AM.

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