Tanks leaving Dungeons/Trials

[Arec]

Yea,
Its become more often closer to heavensward. A lot of tanks are taking the initiative to leave dungeons before duties finished. Its really frustrating.

They would do troll stuff to provoke kicks. There needs to be more reward for tanks to come in and complete dungeons. But also harsher punishment for leaving early.

Maybe even put in profiles how often they leave a dungeon? its very important that people follow through.

[PetiteMalFleur]

They already have penalties in place. Please don't ask for more.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

And there's already rewards for tanks doing high level stuff.

[Buff_Archer]

The one situation where I would be fine with it being increased is in the case of people who insta-bail from dungeons roulette gives them because they signed up for a daily bonus that's paid for filling their role wherever it's most needed, and by doing so they screw over people who specifically waited for that instance for what's often quite a long time. The 30 minute lockout is often nothing compared to the amount of others people's time they wasted. So in addition to the re-registration lockout itself which could stand as is, a set of guidelines that determine when someone becomes ineligible to register for roulettes for a period of time seems appropriate.

They can always queue for specific dungeons even with the loss of a daily roulette, it's just that roulette bonus they forfeited the right to earn for a day. If someone queues roulette, and dungeon pops and they have to run right then because of a family emergency, not being able to do that same roulette is not a problem for them. It's those others who treat a system that pays them to help others, as if the actual purpose of it is for others to help them get paid. People would seek out ways to abuse the system and effective counters to that could be established.

Someone loads into a random Dungeon via DF, and quits in the first minute without doing anything else- loses the ability to queue for that roulette and it shows similar to how it does when it's been completed to indicate the daily reward was received and no more are available until next day.

If they abuse the group to get a kick, hold up the run, etc and get reported, they lose the ability to use roulettes for a week or two.

Or, just track behind the scenes how many bail from roulettes regularly and leave as soon as they see what dungeon got selected- people who are the worst offenders at this and instabail 3 dungeons a week or more should lose roulette ability for longer.

[Urthdigger]

No. I reserve the right to send DPS i recognize as being utterly useless back to the queue, leaving myself if I have to because criticizing a DPS player is a sin punishable by death apparently. Sucks for the other players, but tough luck.

[Malevicton]

Meh, it's not ideal, but at least they're leaving. It's the "Kick me penalty-free or I'll hold the group hostage" type of folks that bug me

[PotatoWafflez]

Only if this penalty is applied to every role would I get behind it, I remember when I wanted to run PS but healers would instantly bail leaving me with two dps or one assuming they didn't also bail.
Its not specific roles that do this its specific people.

[Buff_Archer]

I'm not referring to people who find that their parties are incapable... I'm referring to those who leave without even checking their gear because they drew a dungeon that they knew was in the roulette pool and they decided to gamble on not getting it and the rest pay the consequences. In this case it's not about the people who stay it's all about the person who left 1 sec after it popped.

[Urthdigger]

There's no way to punish those without punishing us tanks who excersize our right to avoid playing with people we don't want to.

[Buff_Archer]

In these situations are you able to assess this about them, and turn around and walk out the door in < 5 seconds after the instance started loading without anyone even having a chance to say a word first?