Heavensward Leveling... aka Northern Thanalan Leveling

[RyuDragnier]

After reading about this, I've started using N Thanalan to level my Jobs up for one reason...I only need them at 51 to start doing the HW dungeons, which I plan on using as my primary source of exp for leveling. Some of us DO love dungeons you know.

[Darkstride]

You can always not FATE grind.. I personally hate leveling like that.

Options are limited. Story quests are limited and only work for building xp to 60 on one job. Levequests are limited supply and don't offer exceptional xp. Dungeons that reward a viable amount of xp are limited. Level 50 dungeons don't reward xp (unless you get a Roulette bonus), so your options are low-level or grinding the new >50 dungeons. You are also bound by queue times. Hunt marks are limited and offer only moderate xp.

FATES are consistent and readily available. I don't love FATE grinding either, but it's efficient.

The point of the OP is that Heavensward FATES are inadequate in comparison to pre-existing, lower level FATES in N Thanalan. Whether or not someone enjoys them isn't really relevant.

[Fonkyama]

I think what most people are not realizing here is that N. Thanalan is more efficient until 55 dungeons (provided the area is busy). It's not a matter of being lazy, avoiding challenge, rushing, etc. It's just that in the current state there is no reason to be in the new areas unless you're hunting.

I don't particularly like Fates, but I used them to level my second class while doing dungeons and N. Thanalan is stupidly efficient right now. I'd love to do Fates in the new zones while queuing, but it's not worth it right now (I tried doing them in all zones except the last one). At the end of the day, N. Thanalan was quicker, which is a shame.

I love new dungeons and they're great for xp, but I'd love to do Fates as an alternative in new areas too.

[Arkenne]

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... Guys... you do realize you dont have to do the FATE from start to finish if its not a boss, right?

HW zones have tons of non-boss FATEs active at almost every moment... you could... dunno, participate in 5 within 3 minutes and earn 50k exp from the lvl 50 FATEs (if they time out fail with gold) by simply HITTING, not even killing (but better kill them), 4 monsters and do side quests to kill time... or join a boss FATE... N Thana rarely has more than 3 active FATEs...

[Fonkyama]

Which side quests? We're talking about a second class here. N. Thanalan always has running Fates and it also has DD + Chimera. Cleared gold Fates in new areas only give 2-3k more xp. You just cannot compete with the zerg party going on in N. Thanalan right now.

[Sei-Ryu]

Personally, I've taken to doing Daily Hunts for exp. Each Tier 1 hunt set (1-3 mobs) gives equal exp to an NThan FATE with armoury bonus (around 21k exp), Tier 3s give 24-48k depending on the hunt. You can do these as many times a day as you want. Complete a set, go back and restock. The best part is, they all give those precious centurio seals that everyone fights over on A-Rank hunts. Before you know it, you will be full and spending them. They give 4-15 seals depending on tier, per hunt. It's very effective. Other than that, just do daily roulettes as well. You don't have to fate grind anywhere to level past 50.

[Tuathaa]

So basically people are ignoring the greater challenge for easier content, not because there is a great disparity in XP gained? Lazy players are lazy players...

When you can knock off a HW A rank faster than a HW fate boss with the same group it needs to be adjusted. Not only for HP pool but experience.
Lazy has nothing to do with it it's time vs reward

[Furiea]

Personally, I've taken to doing Daily Hunts for exp. Each Tier 1 hunt set (1-3 mobs) gives equal exp to an NThan FATE with armoury bonus (around 21k exp), Tier 3s give 24-48k depending on the hunt. You can do these as many times a day as you want. Complete a set, go back and restock.

Daily Duty roulette main scenario gives 18% ~ 23% level exp
Daily Hunts gives 20k+ exp and you get about 10+ to hunt on a daily basis.
HW Dungeon gives 18% ~ 23%

It is sad to see people going back to North T. and not embracing any new content for EXP.
At this point.. it is probably easier to scale down the EXP received from N.T. Fate drastically after lvl 51 rather than bumping everything else up.

[Sei-Ryu]

Sorry, edit on the daily hunts. Apparently you can pick up one set a day, but if you don't complete the previous day's set, you can complete that one and pick up another one.

Otherwise, it appears they're once a day, still really good exp though.

[Cirgellon]

Just imagine if that zerg moved to a new zone that gives more xp per fate. Dungeons have been much faster leveling for me after 51 though. I'm also rolling a tank as a second class so I don't have any queue times.