Heavensward Leveling... aka Northern Thanalan Leveling

[Darkstride]

You can always not FATE grind.. I personally hate leveling like that.

Options are limited. Story quests are limited and only work for building xp to 60 on one job. Levequests are limited supply and don't offer exceptional xp. Dungeons that reward a viable amount of xp are limited. Level 50 dungeons don't reward xp (unless you get a Roulette bonus), so your options are low-level or grinding the new >50 dungeons. You are also bound by queue times. Hunt marks are limited and offer only moderate xp.

FATES are consistent and readily available. I don't love FATE grinding either, but it's efficient.

The point of the OP is that Heavensward FATES are inadequate in comparison to pre-existing, lower level FATES in N Thanalan. Whether or not someone enjoys them isn't really relevant.

[Fonkyama]

I think what most people are not realizing here is that N. Thanalan is more efficient until 55 dungeons (provided the area is busy). It's not a matter of being lazy, avoiding challenge, rushing, etc. It's just that in the current state there is no reason to be in the new areas unless you're hunting.

I don't particularly like Fates, but I used them to level my second class while doing dungeons and N. Thanalan is stupidly efficient right now. I'd love to do Fates in the new zones while queuing, but it's not worth it right now (I tried doing them in all zones except the last one). At the end of the day, N. Thanalan was quicker, which is a shame.

I love new dungeons and they're great for xp, but I'd love to do Fates as an alternative in new areas too.