Cannot decide between Warrior and Dark Knight

[Hundred]

You're weaving a lot more shit in as a Dark. Hit a cooldown? Throw in Plunge, next get that DA in,finish up that combo but put reprisal in there too, and fuck throw in Dark passenger because we've got time.Drop your scourge in but don't forget Salted Earth. Pop up the blood price because its time for DA -dark mind, take off Grit and go in with DA soul eater combo in short demand, pop Blood weapon.
Just pray for TP. If you like to press different buttons I would say Drk has that more then Warrior or maybe its just because its new.

[Janhyua]

You are writing posts and engaging in a debate without any clear understanding of the class it seems. You probably just googled FoF and saw 20 seconds would be my guess. In any case, your posting--it opens up your points to criticisms, for which there are many. In 2.0 war and paladin OT damage was neck and neck even onto t13 (blue gatr posts on this). Wars put up pretty numbers, Paladins smaller numbers are much stronger. In 3.0 wars gained an offensive stance and stack usage, paladins got 340 and 540 potency attacks. So far according to Xeno (a VERY well known warrior and mechanic theorist) pal single target dps more or less seems on par with war as OT. Flashy? Heck no! But paladin isn't a flashy class (unless you are doing an AoE pull--hue hue hue).

Whatever I am not as nerdy as you I only post with what is on my head I don't remember all of the trait on the get go cause why do I care it works and that all that matter

I will MT as paladin because that will make my raid happy
I will OT as warrior that will make my raid happy
I will dark knight whatever hell I want my raid will be sad but I am raid leader

Long story short I am not going to use a class to push it to make it do what is not designed to do why do that when you can just switch class all tank gear are shared I know you try to defend paladin but face it when it comes to damage warrior and dark knight far better

Paladin strong point is not the damage is their defend cool down and their shield

But when it come to be a OT you will mostly be doing damage then taking any damage in most cases unless T13 I don't have any problem with any other fight so if you plan to be a OT then go warrior

Case close

[Janhyua]

You're weaving a lot more shit in as a Dark. Hit a cooldown? Throw in Plunge, next get that DA in,finish up that combo but put reprisal in there too, and fuck throw in Dark passenger because we've got time.Drop your scourge in but don't forget Salted Earth. Pop up the blood price because its time for DA -dark mind, take off Grit and go in with DA soul eater combo in short demand, pop Blood weapon.
Just pray for TP. If you like to press different buttons I would say Drk has that more then Warrior or maybe its just because its new.

I am guessing you are targeting me I am just going to say

I am only born last week as a dark knight but again warrior still has over all dps compare to dark knight and also I did all what you just mention it still not as impressive as it should have been but hey I am still a dark knight and will be for the next 6 months just like what I did on my 2 previous class

[Faytte]

I love someone that doesnt understand the classes, mechanics etc chooses to come debate them, gets angry when their points are picked apart, and has the audacity to say 'case closed' like you made some kind of scientific point.

Pals are the best at certain types of mitigation. They actually OT as well as a Warrior--something you seem to not understand because I assume you see big Warrior numbers and don't understand how dps is calculated (both pal and war right now can parse over 900 on a target dummy). Both put up good debuffs as OT. Paladin actually has more free time to use clemency in a pinch.

Being an OT is about providing maximum utility to the raid--that is, the -10% damage on key mechanics and whatever else you can do. FOLLOWING that-damage is 'nice', but not why you pick off tanks. In 2.0, pal and war OT dps was within a few % of each other, and it seems to be the same so far in 3.0 (Single Target, but how many raids had many chances for Multi Target to matter?).

[Janhyua]

I love someone that doesnt understand the classes, mechanics etc chooses to come debate them, gets angry when their points are picked apart, and has the audacity to say 'case closed' like you made some kind of scientific point.

Pals are the best at certain types of mitigation. They actually OT as well as a Warrior--something you seem to not understand because I assume you see big Warrior numbers and don't understand how dps is calculated (both pal and war right now can parse over 900 on a target dummy). Both put up good debuffs as OT. Paladin actually has more free time to use clemency in a pinch.

Being an OT is about providing maximum utility to the raid--that is, the -10% damage on key mechanics and whatever else you can do. FOLLOWING that-damage is 'nice', but not why you pick off tanks. In 2.0, pal and war OT dps was within a few % of each other, and it seems to be the same so far in 3.0 (Single Target, but how many raids had many chances for Multi Target to matter?).

The reason I was angry is because you said I lie about my tank experience
As long as I don't die to any unreasonable situation like I forget to pop my cool down or anything all I am saying is overall which class is best suitable for and what cannot be done all class do all the thing I mention above but each of them perform better then others

But you also need to take it consideration that I haven 60 my warrior and paladin which I will in the next coming weeks

[Faytte]

1) Dont care why you were angry, I still think you lied. No offense?
2) Good tanks understand how their mechanics work. After seeing a post where you cherry picked or didnt understand mechanics, I can surmise something about if you are a good tank or not.
3) Your intention to level up other classes means nothing, I don't see why I would take it into consideration? I'm leveling all three tanks, and later will level ninja and monk. This is not WoW where I care that 'my class' is better than others, because if it so happens DRK is buffed, or War, or Pal, or whoever--I can swap a weapon and change to that class.

[Aerya]

I made a video of all the Dark Knight abilities that may help you. Personally, I look for this type of video when choosing jobs in games like FFXIV, as I like to know what skills do and how they look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VOJncaYam8

I will gladly answer any questions about the skills if you have them!

Very useful video, thanks! I will try to get to lvl 60 with my DRK to see what it's really worth.

[Krissey]

I chose Warrior because I like the Marauder and Warrior storylines, and I always main Warrior/Barbarian/Berserker in every other game. D&D, WoW, Tera, GW2, etc... if it's an RPG and has a bloodlust fighter to pick I will pick it. Also I picked Roegadyn with a Fantasia because they are the most like WoW Orcs it seems.

Strength and Honor friends

[Krissey]

Speaking of: Is there a Warrior guide anywhere that's up-to-date?

[Fendred]

Sounds like people are saying go with warrior. Also warrior seems straight forward. Keep up your buffs and debuffs, and you get one big single target and one big AOE move per stance and mitigate or pop cooldowns as needed.

The Dark Knight stances and Mana cooldowns and dark arts and so forth doesn't seem intuitive. It seems confusing and a little overwhelming, on paper anyway. I doesn't really make sense to me and I figured I would need to play it to get it.

There really isn't a whole lot to the dark knight's mp management. Darkside goes down in between trash pulls to let mana recover and during combat they can regain mana through their abilities. The mana drain is meant to enforce a rotation they intend dark knight's to do involving their mana recovery options. That being said, AoE can be problematic at times due to an already diminishing resource. With the right cooldowns its not a problem, though.