Lol I know the feeling as a MNK, due to all the GL drops I've seen in there. Though I'd still rather do that place with pugs than Fractal...somehow the pugs always seem to make Fractal harder than it is.

I don't mind either of them. My one dislike in Neverreave is the final boss. A stacking Evasion buff doesn't add anything mechanically to the fight and merely serves to stretch it out for melee-heavy parties (as well as make me sigh when Goring Blade misses).
I ran it with FC members who I know are good at DPS, along with a WHM that used Cleric Stance, and packs melted about as fast as they did back in 2.5. I suspect it's simply an issue of people learning new rotations over anything else.
I think Neverreap is clearly easier than Fractal. I passed at first try with just over entry ilvl and no problems. Fractal is much harder for a low ilvl tank.
It's different if you go with a group than in Duty Finder. Just now I prefer to get Neverreap. Fractal is much riskier for Duty Finder. Probably it won't take long for people to have much better gear and more experience and things will change.
If doing it with base-level (i145ish) healer/tank, I prefer Neverreap. Fractal seems to be rougher on healers and I've seen a lot of them fizzle out during the last boss. I encounter no such issues in Neverreap, even though it is overall a longer dungeon to complete.
I can't say I remember because the last few days I haven't been able to get damn EX Roulette to pop for my SMN... waiting 3x the BS time estimate or longer and finally giving up because I have other things to do besides just wait on Duty Finder. And it's frustrating because I need to upgrade my gear to be able to get into Alexander, I already missed it for this week because I'm in the i160's. I've been doing the other roulettes because at least I get a queue pop but that's only like 260 or so law tomes a day.
I'm wondering if I just queue for Fractal and write off the daily EX Roulette tome bonus, if I would actually get in faster because of that being one people queue specifically for more often, or if it would still be the same.


We have a huge shortage of tank, again... in pretty much every servers, american, euro and japan. I am having the same problem when trying to do it as SMN, over 15-30 minutes range wait - I usually do my hunt daily marks to pass the time. Go as Scholar, it is instant queue or around 5 minutes.I can't say I remember because the last few days I haven't been able to get damn EX Roulette to pop for my SMN... I'm wondering if I just queue for Fractal and write off the daily EX Roulette tome bonus, if I would actually get in faster because of that being one people queue specifically for more often, or if it would still be the same.


I like Nevereap. But most of all, I rather have a group who KNOW exactly what they are suppose to do. If you are new, you better be very quick in reading the mechanic and adapt if you decide to go blind. This is fairly easy if you are hardcore raider or have been playing all the endgame dungeons in the past two years since the mechanics are remix of everything else you have done so far with a few twists. New casual cassie cathy cassandra christina who just wanna have fun and never bother to learn anything about their jobs other than smashing a few buttons in random order... well these are your worst nightmare on 3.0 content. So far the endgame in 3.0 are very fair, fun and accessible.

I prefer Neverreap, it feels faster for me. I find Fractal tedious and the trash groups feels like they take forever to get through (could be that as a DRG DPS i have weak AoE play :P)
My 2 most favorite dungeons in the game. Easily. The Aery is a close 2nd behind these 2.
I like neverreap better. As a WHM it is FAR easier to heal those bosses. Where the final boss on Fractal is an exciting stress induced romp into OOM with many many groups.
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