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    Player
    Blanchimont's Avatar
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    Viese Blanchimont
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    The water effects for when you are hit by that rising water also lags my computer like crazy.
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    i think i probably like neverreap better with a good pt, but it doesn't really matter to me which one we do - i have had fractal go quickly as well
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Well, what I can glean from this, is, all the bad players on the Primal data center are being drawn to you, while I get all the decent to good players. And I'm perfectly comfortable with that. Cause, seriously, my DF experiences are not even remotely similar to what you're describing. And I mean, like, at all. Either you are wildly exaggerating (most likely) or I just had unbelievably better luck than you over a span of a full year and a half. I mean, 70%? If you'd said 30%, I might have accepted that, but 70%? Yeah....
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    Content too hard? Too much rng? Too much effort for the item you want?

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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'd say Fractul is mostly the easier one, with the last boss being the exception as (in my opinion atleast) it's mechanics are much more punishing than Neverreap's.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    I ran both for the first time today and I must say I didn't find either one particularly difficult. They each had their share of annoying bits, but nothing I would actually call difficult. I wouldn't even call the bosses difficult, but maybe that's because DF grouped me with competent people for both dungeons.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Zophar's Avatar
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I ran both for the first time today and I must say I didn't find either one particularly difficult. They each had their share of annoying bits, but nothing I would actually call difficult. I wouldn't even call the bosses difficult, but maybe that's because DF grouped me with competent people for both dungeons.
    Nope. You are right. Both are easy. I find Neverreap more annoying than Fractal, but I would not at all call it challenging.
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    Content too hard? Too much rng? Too much effort for the item you want?

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    Renabi Rena
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I ran both for the first time today and I must say I didn't find either one particularly difficult. They each had their share of annoying bits, but nothing I would actually call difficult. I wouldn't even call the bosses difficult, but maybe that's because DF grouped me with competent people for both dungeons.
    There have really only been two challenging 4-man dungeon boss fights on their release (at least in my opinion). These are the Teratotaur from The Sunken Temple of Qarn, and Symond the Unsinkable from Pharos Sirius. Teratotaur is literally the first time in the game where you're punished severely if you're not completely aware during the fight, and introduced the doom/plate mechanic which hadn't been explained at all prior to this "optional" dungeon. Symond the Unsinkable had lightning fast dodgable aoes that gave damage up stacks which exploded at 3 stacks in a fight where you're forced to clump together. Both of these fights were single-handedly responsible for these dungeons being avoided like the plague. Granted, now they're a piece of cake, especially Symond since the item level sync is ridiculously high.

    Neverreap admittedly is just annoying since the dungeon is specifically designed to drag out the fights unnecessarily.
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    Elhaym Houten
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    There have really only been two challenging 4-man dungeon boss fights on their release (at least in my opinion). These are the Teratotaur from The Sunken Temple of Qarn, and Symond the Unsinkable from Pharos Sirius.
    Not including Siren? There were plenty of wipes before Siren got nerfed.
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    Renabi Rena
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinadan View Post
    Not including Siren? There were plenty of wipes before Siren got nerfed.
    Siren was bad too, but it just seemed like Symond would legitimately cause groups to quit where as most people stuck through a few Siren wipes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Yea, Facility, Fractal, and Nevereach (The End) are the three EX dungeons. I've gotten it to cue three times now and wouldn't ya know it, Nevereach all three times. It's Pharos Sirius all over again.
    Neverreap and The Fractal Continuum are the only dungeons listed on the Expert Duty Roulette. Far as I know, Facility isn't on any of the roulettes right now.
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    Miguel Angell
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 100
    As an Astrologian myself, I find both Neverreap and Fractal's final bosses to be a bit challenging. for neverreap, the final boss can be a pain since he moves around and seems to have a big hp pool. For Fractal, is not cause I'm overhealing, it's just the dmg he does especially the Aoe move makes me pop Benefic 2 quite often but I wouldn't say I'm overhealing just that I have to use skills that cost quite a bit of mp.. Mp seems to be a problem in that fight. Especially if the tank and dps can't dodge. But I would still prefer Fractal since it's a bit faster and the last boss is doable unlike the final boss from neverreap who can become a nuisance after a while.
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