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    Elky's Avatar
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    Elk Macha
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60

    Black Mage gets worst as you level to 60.

    The crappy part is that it isn't even Black Mage that is the big problem, its the increased movement,boss movement, and invulnerability that is starting to screw with me.
    When I fist started in HW I loved Black mage, especially at level 52 when I got Ley Lines, I felt like a cannon. However in actual dungeons/raids I'm always moving or getting my casting canceled. Now that I have Enochian and almost FireV I have no idea how people will grab me over a Summoner due to how our damage is set up now. If Enochian falls off due to cast cancellation,line of sight cancellation, or an invulnerable boss our dps plummets. Also recasting of Enochian with time still on the buff will revert it to its next lower state i.e 25,20,15,10 seconds which reallly hurts.
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    Elk Macha
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Bard and Machinist have the option of going stationary, but can still freely move. They will have slightly less dps, but they will still have it. Black Mages are gated so hard by the game itself its absurd they don't have tools to deal with it like the other damaging classes have. Not only was the difficulty upped on the class itself but the game rocketed it even higher. I sometimes act like a stubborn jerk and refuse to get out of an aoe. I would like to, but I'm getting that BlizzardV off. The boss that has been the most frustrating for me is the first boss in The Vault. His dashes will cancel any spell I try to cast at him unless he lines up with me line of sight. Then he disappears temporarily after dashing. And here I am with a wasted Ley Lines and waiting for Enochian to come back up.

    So if you guys can have a look at Black Mage I think we would all really appreciate it.
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    Shu'on Vana'diel
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    i think its not a problem faced only by blm.

    I have been playing drg and while blood of the dragon is an insane increase in dps potential, a single missed attack on the combo, or being forced to dodge large aoe can screw up the timer - meaning that most of the 50-60 abilities are rendered useless and back to pre-50 rotations until BotD comes back up.

    I think if you adjust your expectations i.e. not expect to be utilising all the new abilities at all times it is fine (and i honestly dont expect the design philosophy to expect players to be doing that - i believe we are *meant* to screw up at some point).
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    Elk Macha
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Yeah I've noticed that a lot of the new skills for the jobs are actually temporary buffs that give us temporary use of new skills that once gone, we will revert to our level 50 forms. Which is literally what happens to me now that I think about it.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Well, I mean. Enochian means you might lose some Fire IVs. BLM is still in a much better situation than BRDs. All you have to do is find tricks to keep your casts down and a lot of spell speed.
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    Player o3o's Avatar
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    Holly White
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 66
    i thought this was a problem at first. but after you run the content over a few times its really nothing. im rarely losing enokian or whatever its called durring bosses anymore. just gotta learn.

    unless yeah the boss goes invul.... but thats everyones problem. not just blm.
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    It's Second Coil all over again lol. Blm's were complaining that in t6 there was too much movement and stop attacking for them to dps properly. The smn's were doing more damage than them and this was before the buffs. Its not a matter of how much damage the class can dish out because BLM is a best but the encounter and the mechanics and a lot of them have you moving. The Vault final boss is a good example of unfriendly mechanics to BLM's and loldrgs.
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    if you havnt learnt to minimise your movement as blm by now then i can see how all this new content can seem annoying. but seriously its no worse than running titan ex. it just takes some practice and more importantly keeping as much distance from enemies as possible to reduce los or dashing enemies,

    yes we lose our buffs on occasion but if that's how the mechanics play out we cant do anything about it but whining aint gonna fix it. (or atleast I hope it doesnt, devs stop changing stuff for whiners pls)

    but seriously knowledge and experience in all the new content is when everyone who mains blm will start to get better and start pushing better dps and timing their skills more appropriately. this isn't just an xpac but more like a new game. like a sequel same but different.
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    blm is fine, it traded off the strongest aoe for the the strongest single target, it sustains higher damage than any other job when allowed to do so... the problem with most people now? it's harder to play. Practice more, it's very rewarding. I will be the first to admit also that some fights will give us legitimate problems, for example, ravana and his jumps... ugh. But I feel like it's just a matter of getting our rotations and movements etched into muscle memory.
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    Last edited by Xisin; 06-25-2015 at 05:01 PM.

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    Character
    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    The Vault final boss is a good example of unfriendly mechanics to BLM's and loldrgs.
    I didn't find it that bad as a BLM, I mean Firestarter is an amazing thing when you're on the go.

    I have more trouble with Ravana. The things he does will untarget him(even if he's just standing there doing and not jumping or whatever), forcing me to always retarget.
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