UFO spotted in Sea of Clouds - The Truth is out there

[Waffilicious]

Yes the sea of clouds was a small order of islands which later became much numerous thanks to the calamity, plus i do agree in the theory that vanu saw allagan airships and created bismark out of it.

[Dalvy]

Yeah, it's definitely getting closer in Churning Mists. I looked at my old screenshot as i spotted it again recently, and it certainly looked bigger.

[Nalien]

Hmm, wasn't the Sea of Clouds created at least party by the calamity? One of the islands was an area in coerthas back in legacy I believe

I don't think so. The Vanu Vanu is certainly a tribe that has existed for more than 5 years.

The Churning Mists, too, which is part of the Sea of Clouds (the Sea of Clouds zone we have is in the Abalathia's Spine region while the Churning Mists is in Dravania, but the Sea of Clouds in general extends along most of the northern regions afaik) pre-dates Ishgards founding. We also perhaps have evidence that part of the Churning Mists found its way into the Sea of Clouds we visit (Mok Oogl Island), perhaps when Nidhoggs rage caused him to destroy much of the landscape, or perhaps there used to be a tribe of Moogles there.

Yes the sea of clouds was a small order of islands which later became much numerous thanks to the calamity, plus i do agree in the theory that vanu saw allagan airships and created bismark out of it.

I don't think so. As far as I can tell, the Calamity didn't really touch the Sea of Clouds/Churning Mists (though there are some Allag relics in the Aery that could be explained as pieces of Dalamud). I've seen nothing to suggest that the Sea of Clouds has expanded over time, if anything the opposite has been suggested; Once summoned, Bismark took to eating may of the islands, so if anything the Sea of Clouds is smaller than it used to be.

I don't recall any mention of Bahamuts Calamity adding to the floating islands at all. If anything, I'd have expected the Calamity to have destroyed a few islands, though there is no real indication of that. Azys Lla has deteriorated with the passing of time (and had a barrier to protect it). The Sea of Clouds had Bismark going around eating islands. The Churning Mists had one pissed off family of dragons destroying it on a regular basis.

Given the location, I'd actually be surprised to see any impact from Dalamud, actually. That fell over Mor Dhona, the furthest north any of that got was Coerthas Central Highlands. Western Highlands is untouched. Ishgard itself seemed to be untouched. I don't think the fallout from Dalamud reached the Sea of Clouds at all.

[Mysteltain]

Yeah, it's definitely getting closer in Churning Mists. I looked at my old screenshot as i spotted it again recently, and it certainly looked bigger.

Agreed. Saw it last night while waiting on a queue with some FC mates, but we entered the dungeon before I could reach the end of the map. It was absolutely massive, even from my distance, though.

[Balipu]

Agreed. Saw it last night while waiting on a queue with some FC mates, but we entered the dungeon before I could reach the end of the map. It was absolutely massive, even from my distance, though.

Compare the picture on page one with my one on page eleven. It is getting closer a lot.

[Dalvy]

the Calamity didn't really touch the Sea of Clouds/Churning Mists (though there are some Allag relics in the Aery

That large piece of metal next to Nidhogg looks more like shrapnel of dalamud rather than a relic. The shape is similar to other locations where wreckage did fall.

[Whiteroom]

I don't think so. The Vanu Vanu is certainly a tribe that has existed for more than 5 years.

This, the tribe has their own history, it says that Bismarck,(The real one, not the Primal) created the Sea Of Clouds. Also the Churning Mists has been there for 1000 years at least, since the age of Dragons and Man living together.

[Anonymoose]

An avian beast tribe that makes their home on the floating islands of the Sea of Clouds. Isolated from the world in the years prior to the advent of airship technology, in recent years they have grown wary of those who would encroach upon their homeland.

Definitely pre-Calamity.

Don your darksteelfoil hats, because I'm probably about to take good info way too far, again.

The first Umbral Era was said to come about when the Gods left us, and it was aspected towards wind... could that be how long wind crystals gone wild have been keeping these islands afloat? The Moogles did say they served the gods before descending to the ground below...

I'm gonna have to ask around and see what the dragons remember.

[Nalien]

That large piece of metal next to Nidhogg looks more like shrapnel of dalamud rather than a relic. The shape is similar to other locations where wreckage did fall.

I'm actually doubtful it was from Dalamud. Compare every other piece of Dalamud wreckage in Eorzea with it, and there is a distinct different. The stuff in the Aery seems to have arrived there in a much gentler fashion to anything that came flying off Dalamud. It's just kind of sitting there, there is no crazy corrupt crystal structures around it, it's just sitting in the middle of the ruins. The Aery itself has some bizarre crystal/stone formations, but none of it connected to the Allag stuff, given what we see throughout the Churning Mists and Sohm Al I'm incline to think that's just something dragons can do (perhaps some form of nesting?), and Nidhoggs kinda gone crazy so I think his Aery reflects that.

If anything, I'm incline to think Nidhogg was imprisoned in a similar fashion to Tiamat. The node in Azys Lla mentions that a dragon escaped, perhaps it was Nidhogg? Perhaps that explains his distrust of mortals? He is imprisoned by the Allag, finally escapes only to find Hraesvelgr and Ratatoskr have formed an alliance with the pre-Ishgardians. He doesn't like it, but he isn't going to do anything about it, until King Thordan and his Knights Twelve decide to ruin everything... Depends on the time frame for that dragon in Azys Lla escaping... That could just have been the explanation for all the dragon mobs roaming about, after all...

The first Umbral Era was said to come about when the Gods left us, and it was aspected towards wind... could that be how long wind crystals gone wild have been keeping these islands afloat? The Moogles did say they served the gods before descending to the ground below...

I've not done the second half of the Moogle quests yet (hit 60 before and don't want to waste the EXP) so maybe I'm missing something, but I kind of figured the Moogle Mog legend with them serving the Gods to instead be the dragons and pre-Ishgardians; Land and Skylords, as the Mists Moogles call them. Moogle Mog was meant to lead the Moogles to the surface when the Gods started fighting? There was fire from the heavens? Certainly sounds like dragon fire to me, and the landscape of the Churning Mists certainly looks like Nidhogg went absolutely ballistic, half the trees are melted/etc. and something causes Mok Oogle Island to end up where it is.

I would assume the start of the war between the Landlords and Skylords is what lead King Moogle Mog to lead his kin to the surface, while the Mists Moogles stayed to (eventually) serve Hraesvelgr.

[Whiteroom]

Definitely pre-Calamity.

Don your darksteelfoil hats, because I'm probably about to take good info way too far, again.

The first Umbral Era was said to come about when the Gods left us, and it was aspected towards wind... could that be how long wind crystals gone wild have been keeping these islands afloat? The Moogles did say they served the gods before descending to the ground below...

I'm gonna have to ask around and see what the dragons remember.

Yeah, I was going to mention something about the King Mog lore in my previous post, but dungeon popped and I forgot.

I'm actually doubtful it was from Dalamud. Compare every other piece of Dalamud wreckage in Eorzea with it, and there is a distinct different. The stuff in the Aery seems to have arrived there in a much gentler fashion to anything that came flying off Dalamud. It's just kind of sitting there, there is no crazy corrupt crystal structures around it, it's just sitting in the middle of the ruins. The Aery itself has some bizarre crystal/stone formations, but none of it connected to the Allag stuff, given what we see throughout the Churning Mists and Sohm Al I'm incline to think that's just something dragons can do (perhaps some form of nesting?), and Nidhoggs kinda gone crazy so I think his Aery reflects that.

If anything, I'm incline to think Nidhogg was imprisoned in a similar fashion to Tiamat. The node in Azys Lla mentions that a dragon escaped, perhaps it was Nidhogg? Perhaps that explains his distrust of mortals? He is imprisoned by the Allag, finally escapes only to find Hraesvelgr and Ratatoskr have formed an alliance with the pre-Ishgardians. He doesn't like it, but he isn't going to do anything about it, until King Thordan and his Knights Twelve decide to ruin everything... Depends on the time frame for that dragon in Azys Lla escaping... That could just have been the explanation for all the dragon mobs roaming about, after all...

... I was just in The Aery, meaning to take a good look at this, and I forgot.... time to drink another coffee and head back.

As far as the other imprisoned dragon, I'm hoping that is one of the other two we have yet to meet.