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    Player
    FUNgineer's Avatar
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    Furukon Efudoraibu
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 51
    Nah, this should really happen more often. What better way to have devs notice that a class sucks by having it barred from the easiest endgame content in the game?
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    Couch One
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    are you sure you weren't using your incredibly annoying "blank" skill?
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    HodgepodgeMcDodge's Avatar
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    Hodgepodge Mcdodge
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    things
    Calling BS. This didn't happen. For starters, you aren't alerted to the fact that someone's trying to kick you - not until you've actually been kicked. Second, you say 'they' groaned nonstop. That means plural. That means at least two party members had an issue with you. If they had tried to kick you, it would have passed and you would have been given le bewt. It only takes two peoples' vote to get the the kick to pass in a 4-man. Even if the healer tried to save you, the vote still would have passed.

    I'm not saying something like this couldn't happen. I'm saying that, in this instance, it did not.

    And personally, I haven't had any issues with anyone while on my mch. Everyone's been nothing but friendly towards my mch.
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    Character
    T'erra Branford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HodgepodgeMcDodge View Post
    Calling BS. This didn't happen. For starters, you aren't alerted to the fact that someone's trying to kick you - not until you've actually been kicked. Second, you say 'they' groaned nonstop. That means plural. That means at least two party members had an issue with you. If they had tried to kick you, it would have passed and you would have been given le bewt. It only takes two peoples' vote to get the the kick to pass in a 4-man. Even if the healer tried to save you, the vote still would have passed.

    I'm not saying something like this couldn't happen. I'm saying that, in this instance, it did not.

    And personally, I haven't had any issues with anyone while on my mch. Everyone's been nothing but friendly towards my mch.
    I would say you are right here. He does get overly dramatic in his threads.
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Character
    Marik Landzaat
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Been leveling DRK and haven't had issues with MCH other than some using Blank all the damn time. I also haven't seen much hate towards them. Granted my DRK is almost 49, so haven't been doing any of the new dungeons or trials on my main yet where more of this behavior may be happening?

    Either way, if this is truly happening it's sad to hear. People shouldn't punish someone for something outside their control. It's a new class, it happens to be undertuned atm, and that doesn't make the person playing it deserving of that treatment.
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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Sadly Blank is a dps increase akin to Bard Repelling Shot, except for the whole lets do a mob reposition and not a self reposition. Strangely enough, some of the "boss" mobs in lower level dungeons are effected by the knock back too, and other trash mobs are inconsistent of what can and can't be knocked back.
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  7. #7
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Marik Landzaat
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoria View Post
    Sadly Blank is a dps increase akin to Bard Repelling Shot, except for the whole lets do a mob reposition and not a self reposition. Strangely enough, some of the "boss" mobs in lower level dungeons are effected by the knock back too, and other trash mobs are inconsistent of what can and can't be knocked back.
    The problem is, there is a difference between personal DPS increase and party/raid DPS increase. If a MCH were to Blank and screw up a MNK or DRGs positional (btw that can result in a 190 potency penalty for DRG now as well as almost invalidating an entire combo), that tiny little DPS increase for MCH would be overshadowed by the loss as a group. In that scenario, yes, I would boot the MCH.
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Character
    Lace Valeria
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I have to disagree. Blank is all but useless to me except if I'm solo. And even then I find little use for it. While I still have to work a little to maintain good dps, I've had no issues with performing well, party acceptance, and overall capability.
    (0)

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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I have to disagree. Blank is all but useless to me except if I'm solo. And even then I find little use for it. While I still have to work a little to maintain good dps, I've had no issues with performing well, party acceptance, and overall capability.
    Blank is off GCD and is a free 100 potency attack. It works well on bosses, which don't suffer the knockback.
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    Player
    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Character
    Marik Landzaat
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Blank is off GCD and is a free 100 potency attack. It works well on bosses, which don't suffer the knockback.
    Using it on something that doesn't suffer knock back is the key difference. Because right now MCH are using it on everything.
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    Last edited by HeavensSword; 06-27-2015 at 01:17 AM.

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