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  1. #11
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    Donarudo's Avatar
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    good feedback
    I am not discounting them. I am just having a hard time understanding how they directly affect mana conservation. Here is why. Is the draw not random? Even with having shuffle = and spread and so forth? Also lets be honest each encounter is not always going to be the optimal encounter. I want to better understand so I ask these questions the way I do for a reason. The job is new to me, but I am not new to healing. WHM/SCH. So by asking my questions the way I am I will learn. However I do still disagree on some points. Maybe because of the wording of the abilities I am not sure. I get that they may shorten the fight. However we all know fights are usually extended for many reason. Short term AST's manage mana well. Long term is where I feel there is an issue. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I am not afraid to be criticized if I am.
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  2. #12
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    Elendia's Avatar
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    Sara Valestein
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Donarudo View Post
    I disagree with you. He/she specifically stated "conserve mana" they do not specifically reduce mana cost. Also where does it state that Spear directly affects Luminiferous Aether's CD? I will state again only 1 of those six abilities "directly" affects MP cost. It still does not address the underlying issue that AST's do have mana issues even using proper buffs to "conserve mana" as was stated in his/her post.
    Nobody said anything about the cards covering the MP problem - AST has MP problems, that is correct. What the poster said is that the OP can conserve mana with the cards in some way. 5 of the 6 cards can lower your MP usage directly or indirectly as laid out earlier.
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  3. #13
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    Donarudo's Avatar
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    So here is what I found out so you guys don't think I was just being a jerk. I went back and tested what Elendia and Krixus told me. Here is what I learned. I was misusing Lumi, I didn't fully understand the cards until you two pointed out obvious things which I clearly did not understand. Secondly as stated I do now see why to use spear in conjuction with lumi. Simply put I did not understand it until you two pointed it out. As Elendia stated yep mana issues still, but at least now fully understanding I can make informed decisions as a AST. Thank you guys
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  4. #14
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I almost ALWAYS save or use the spear card for myself.

    The ability cooldown reduction affects all abilities, including Luminiferous Aether (refresh).

    Also, try using the ewer on yourself as well. At level 60, it reduces the potencies by a lot, especially Helios and Aspected Helios.

    If you are having problems, try casting Aspected Benefic and Helios on the tank and cast Time Dilation on them. Both regens last for 30 seconds and that requires less healing.
    If a lot of AoE is going out, don't be afraid to cast Synastry on the tank either. So instead of using Helios, you can use Benefic on other party members and those heals affect the tank as well.

    I had that problem in the Vault, but now that I understand all these little things, life is easier. Also make sure you are geared correctly, especially your weapon.
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    Last edited by DeadRiser; 06-26-2015 at 11:12 PM.

  5. #15
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    Donarudo's Avatar
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I almost ALWAYS save or use the spear card for myself.

    The ability cooldown reduction affects all abilities, including Luminiferous Aether (refresh).

    Also, try using the ewer on yourself as well. At level 60, it reduces the potencies by a lot, especially Helios and Aspected Helios.

    If you are having problems, try casting Aspected Benefic and Helios on the tank and cast Time Dilation on them. Both regens last for 30 seconds and that requires less healing.
    If a lot of AoE is going out, don't be afraid to cast Synastry on the tank either. And instead of using Helios to heal, you can simply use Benefic.

    I had that problem in the Vault, but now that I understand all these little things, life is easier. Also make sure you are geared correctly, especially your weapon.
    Thanks for the tips. I will be sure to do this .
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  6. #16
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    Momosai's Avatar
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    Honey Buns
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I figured out what it was. I didn't have a lot of determination on the gear I had which caused me having to spend more mana. I also didn't have decent dps in my dun so that made it even harder on me. Thanks everyone for the tips. : )
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  7. #17
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    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I almost ALWAYS save or use the spear card for myself.

    The ability cooldown reduction affects all abilities, including Luminiferous Aether (refresh).

    Also, try using the ewer on yourself as well. At level 60, it reduces the potencies by a lot, especially Helios and Aspected Helios.

    If you are having problems, try casting Aspected Benefic and Helios on the tank and cast Time Dilation on them. Both regens last for 30 seconds and that requires less healing.
    If a lot of AoE is going out, don't be afraid to cast Synastry on the tank either. So instead of using Helios, you can use Benefic on other party members and those heals affect the tank as well.

    I had that problem in the Vault, but now that I understand all these little things, life is easier. Also make sure you are geared correctly, especially your weapon.
    Aspected Benefic is only 18 seconds unless you meant after using Time Dilation.
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  8. #18
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    Colonel_Hathi's Avatar
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    Colonel Hathi
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    It's not much, but Celestial Opposition also effects Luminiferous Aether for 5 extra seconds on your mp regen.
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  9. #19
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Astrologian has no mana problems if you are not pretending to be a scholar and spamming your shield only.
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  10. #20
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    It's kinda sad to say that "you'll be fine once your overgear the content" but hey.
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