Artifact Armors!

[Krausus]

yes i know but if the dungeon and other party type event does not lock you out of class then what the point? if people can come in dungeon as a class then there no point in jobs.

I think you are confused in what role jobs provide.

and leves? really people still do leves? i been partying and only do leves for marks/small gil.

I guess this explains why you are still rank 41

[Eekiki]

and doing the same dungeon 500times to gear all your 50s is content for you? i mean if you get max level within 2-1month and do dungeon for months at end even if they add 1-2 every 2months that mean you have to get the new gear over and over again. I agree i don't want to level up 1-50 x8 times but there really noting else to do then just leves,party,dungeon, pointless sidequest with no real plot or good storyline. I guess i'm being picky i know this game would turn out great in about 1year more but right now it seem there noting to do but level.

When I was a kid, and my family would go to a restaurant for dinner, I'd always whine about having to wait for the food after ordering. My mom would ask me, "You want them to serve you raw food?"

You can either deal with the lack of content now, knowing that a year from now there will be a lot more to do, or SE can rush out a bunch of throwaway BS content like sidequests, which everyone will have done in a week then be back to whining about having nothing to do.

[Zenaku]

and ranking up is content to you? it seems you are also under the impression that they are not also adding in more content to do.

I would like partying if i did not have to walk from A--->B to find the same mobs if it was more like ffxi where you sit there and have a puller and there more a role i enjoy it more but i guess that what jobs are for huh? just hope when they remake the map they allow that type of partying. Doing leves is boring and i'm just sick of it partying seem to be fun just to much walking atm.

The issue with adding jobs that you become Pug50---> 50mnk is people really not going to know there role in a party and it going to confuse a lot of new players and players who are playing now. I just think they can't really balance it out right that Jobs would be better for dungeons/party vs Class even with the new spell,ja,ws. They have to be 10x better but not overpowering. A lot of people wont want to be a Job because they want to hybrid and jobs wont let you hybrid every spell,ja,ws from every class. It just seem like SE is digging them-self a bigger hole trying to add this new job system top of the class system when they could just remake all the class and allow jobs to solo but when you party it give more EXP due to it being a party vs just you soloing and still allow people to solo.

i guess we wait and see what it going to be like lol.

@Krausus you kidding me right? look at my history i got 33 lancer too 37 and switch to Pug and got that 37-41 in a short time doing partying and only doing leves when there up for marks/gil. i only got back to the game 6days ago due to my gf pc having issue and have to get new parts from newegg.

[Krausus]

I would like partying if i did not have to walk from A--->B to find the same mobs if it was more like ffxi where you sit there and have a puller and there more a role i enjoy it more but i guess that what jobs are for huh? just hope when they remake the map they allow that type of partying. Doing leves is boring and i'm just sick of it partying seem to be fun just to much walking atm.

The issue with adding jobs that you become Pug50---> 50mnk is people really not going to know there role in a party and it going to confuse a lot of new players and players who are playing now. I just think they can't really balance it out right that Jobs would be better for dungeons/party vs Class even with the new spell,ja,ws. They have to be 10x better but not overpowering. A lot of people wont want to be a Job because they want to hybrid and jobs wont let you hybrid every spell,ja,ws from every class. It just seem like SE is digging them-self a bigger hole trying to add this new job system top of the class system when they could just remake all the class and allow jobs to solo but when you party it give more EXP due to it being a party vs just you soloing and still allow people to solo.

i guess we wait and see what it going to be like lol.

@Krausus you kidding me right? look at my history i got 33 lancer too 37 and switch to Pug and got that 37-41 in a short time doing partying and only doing leves when there up for marks/gil.

Well I'm pretty sure that you can unlock your job pre 50, so you should be able to level your job beside your class, I think what they mean is what ever rank your class is the job will be. Also I dont think that a job is going to drastically change the play style of any class so much that you have to completely relearn how to play. So not sure about anyone else but I didn't learn how to play my Lancer to its full potential until after the rank up process. I mean I knew how to play him but I really truly learned the ins and outs on NMs and the dungeon since ranking up is a very basic process when it comes to battle.

[Volsung]

Seeing as jobs will be pointed in a specific role, I think it would be pretty hard not to grasp how to play it. its a specific role for your class, not an entirely new things (except for barcher hehe) But in that case you can choose: ranged high damage or ranged damage and spending time on song effects

[Zenaku]

Well I'm pretty sure that you can unlock your job pre 50, so you should be able to level your job beside your class, I think what they mean is what ever rank your class is the job will be. Also I dont think that a job is going to drastically change the play style of any class so much that you have to completely relearn how to play. So not sure about anyone else but I didn't learn how to play my Lancer to its full potential until after the rank up process. I mean I knew how to play him but I really truly learned the ins and outs on NMs and the dungeon since ranking up is a very basic process when it comes to battle.

Ya i agree with you but it's does not change much then what the point? why do all the work of making jobs? when just renaming the class and giving them AF would have been less work?

in ffxi you learn in partying but iguess things have change lol i just don't see people doing jobs if class are better in dungeon not if they lock you out of class and only can enter in as a job then that would make more sense or maybe that what they thinking of doing.

[Nero]

What i am actually more curious about...

Where do we get the AF from? Will it be similiar to FFXI? Or will it be something different? Will it be unique to each Job, what you have to do? Or will it be "Easy Mode" for all of them?

I would for sure expect AF2 sometime in the future, which also leads me to another question.. Dynamis-like Dungeon? With Time-chests and Stuff? And actually RANDOM drops.. not like current dungeons.. "we dont need to get that chest.. we KNOW whats in there" <_<.

I would prefer some ridicilous hard questline over some Easy Mode shit. And also.. AF have to be rare/ex.. but since we cant attach Materia to it ( yet ), i am seriously afraid that the Gear will be useless. Attaching Materia to it, or the posibility of making HQ-AF out of it, would give it a whole different level, than it looks right now to me... just saying.

[Zenaku]

What i am actually more curious about...

Where do we get the AF from? Will it be similiar to FFXI? Or will it be something different? Will it be unique to each Job, what you have to do? Or will it be "Easy Mode" for all of them?

I would for sure expect AF2 sometime in the future, which also leads me to another question.. Dynamis-like Dungeon? With Time-chests and Stuff? And actually RANDOM drops.. not like current dungeons.. "we dont need to get that chest.. we KNOW whats in there" <_<.

I would prefer some ridicilous hard questline over some Easy Mode shit. And also.. AF have to be rare/ex.. but since we cant attach Materia to it ( yet ), i am seriously afraid that the Gear will be useless. Attaching Materia to it, or the posibility of making HQ-AF out of it, would give it a whole different level, than it looks right now to me... just saying.

That the big question each jobs get there own AF and it lock to only be allow to use it as jobs by the look of it. Also you most do quest to unlock the new spell,ja,ws so i wonder if it be Easy mode or it would take some team work / hard work to get them done. I mean if jobs are for party play then the quest you have to get some people to do them with then if not it be easy mode / solo i don't think that be very fun we all be done with it within a few hours.

[Bethor]

Uh... that's definitely a shield lol.



So because you are capable of pulling with both RNG and BRD in XI, that makes the jobs similar?

Sorry but no. The reason it's such a stretch is because Archer and Bard are completely opposite ends of the spectrum. Everything else regardig the jobs makes sense. LNC to DRG. PGL to MNK. Etc. Archer to Bard makes zero sense. It's wielding 2 completely different things that are wildly unrelated, which is part of the reason that weapon looks so ridiculous. It's also mixing 2 roles that a lot of players are going to dislike having mixed. If their goal is to be a support class, aka Bard, 99% of players are going to be uninterested at best in playing Archer.

And beyond all that... it's just a dumb and lazy idea, dude. They're obviously trying to squeeze a job into a class where it doesn't belong because the Armoury system is so rigid.

Plus, what other weapons are we going to see for a "barcher?" A bowcarina? A pianbow? A blute? Or is it only gonna be harp-bows?

It's just silly.

The bowcarina just made my day D:!

[Krausus]

Ya i agree with you but it's does not change much then what the point? why do all the work of making jobs? when just renaming the class and giving them AF would have been less work?

in ffxi you learn in partying but iguess things have change lol i just don't see people doing jobs if class are better in dungeon not if they lock you out of class and only can enter in as a job then that would make more sense or maybe that what they thinking of doing.

but thats the thing, class will not be better then Jobs in group situations (Keep in mind it will be class+job not removal of the class in place of the job). Take Lancer for example I fully expect to gain more DPS and more TP management from Dragoon but loose out on the ability to cast cure or sacrifice. Well if White mage is around I fully expect to not have to use cure/sacrifice and welcome more dps/tp management.

Also this allows FF to retain the Armory system (versatility) while also offering the job system (Specialized role)