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  1. #351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    has anyone ever noticed that lances shrink and grow depending on whether they are on your back or in your hands
    Yeah. Its a locking mechanism that allows you to extend/shorten the length of the pole.

    But you see, the thing about archers is that they are fast, simple, and effective. Designing compartmentalized arrow that can be lengthened or shortened sounds cool, but is a conceptual contradiction to what makes Archers so effective.

    Additionally, the added weight and awkwardness of having an arrow that has to be extended and presumably locked in "long" position before fired would greatly increase the amount of time it would take an archer to get off a shot.

    Sure -- they could be arrows that can be extended, but when you can just wear a quiver on each leg wit 50 regular wooden arrows that you can draw in a millisecond, why hassle yourself with putting a heavy, cumbersome specially designed mechanical arrow on top of your bow?

    Not so much a "you're wrong!" rant... I'd really like a reason that would make sense of the idea...
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  2. #352
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    yeah, so i downloaded the pic and looked at it at 400% and that dragoon is defiantly holding a scythe, do doubt. So, maybe its not a dragoon after all. Ive heard the term dragon knight and people said that was a dragoon but maybe its not. maybe se is saving dragoon to be a pet class as a 2nd or 3rd job for lancer.Makes more sense when you think about it.
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  3. #353
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    Wow.people will believe what they want until the patch is out i guess.Most people in here seem to get it,weapon = class,so yes that is a lance,and yes that is a bow(with a harp attachment).All the classes line up.


    GLA=PLD
    PGL=MNK
    LNC=DRG
    THM=BLM
    CNJ=WHM
    ARC=BRD
    MAR=WAR?


    That's right the only job not yet announced is for Marauder.SE has stated they want classic FF jobs so I'm thinking WAR,(kinda boring) but looks like berserker or viking could be possibilities(don't think BST just yet but the gear has the look).In the end aren't they all kind of similar.So Im thinking a berserker/viking mash up could be called WAR and with the red in the gear to honor the classic FF WAR look.
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  4. #354
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    Viking/Berserker/Warrior is far more likely than Beastmaster.

    I doubt the dev team has had time to implement a pet system yet.
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  5. #355
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    I agree with you guys, Berserker/Viking makes more sense.

    If you think about it, Warrior wouldn't make much sense because its always been a tanky job and is the damage dealing brother to Paladin. Marauder is a DD through and through, it only makes sense that they turn it into a full on damage monster and Viking/Berserker would do that.

    Look at it this way:

    GLD : Tank
    PUG: DD/Off-Tank
    ARC: DD/Support (Deals great damage, has a lot of enfeebling arrows)
    LNC: DD/Support
    MRD: DD
    CON: Nuker/Healer
    THM: Debuffer/Healer(?)

    Those are (loosely) the ways the jobs are currently played -- and most of the jobs we're predicting expand on those established playstyles. The second set of jobs would probably enhance the alternative play styles for each class.
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  6. #356
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    I am really hoping its not WAR,Viking really fits with the whole pirate thing and Berserker would be great! All in all I just want MAR to be DD job,but its not up to Me;if I'm not happy with it I'll look nice as a BLM.
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptGrimlock View Post
    I am really hoping its not WAR,Viking really fits with the whole pirate thing and Berserker would be great! All in all I just want MAR to be DD job,but its not up to Me;if I'm not happy with it I'll look nice as a BLM.
    by definition that bix ax is actually a halberd meaning that the "viking" could be a lancer job, and the guy in the back could be a dark knight.

    hal·berd
       [hal-berd, hawl-, hol-; formerly haw-berd] Show IPA
    noun
    a shafted weapon with an axlike cutting blade, beak, and apical spike, used especially in the 15th and 16th centuries.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    by definition that bix ax is actually a halberd meaning that the "viking" could be a lancer job, and the guy in the back could be a dark knight.

    hal·berd
       [hal-berd, hawl-, hol-; formerly haw-berd] Show IPA
    noun
    a shafted weapon with an axlike cutting blade, beak, and apical spike, used especially in the 15th and 16th centuries.
    A halberd (also called halbert or Swiss voulge) is a two-handed pole weapon that came to prominent use during the 14th and 15th centuries. Possibly the word halberd comes from the German words Halm (staff), and Barte (axe)

    your missing something, the key to what makes something a halberd is that it is an axe like thing with a pointy tip one a POLEARM, the differents between a pole and a haft is in size and shape and use. the thing the berserker warrior viking has, is too short in relation to the blade, it has a haft, not a pole.

    no matter how you want to look at it the dragoon is using a pole weapon. its got an extremely long pole. btw, vikings did use polearms, but since polearms are given to lancer, its fair to say if they did make a viking job, it wouldnt use a polearm.

    anyhow its not a scythe imo.
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    your missing something, the key to what makes something a halberd is that it is an axe like thing with a pointy tip one a POLEARM, the differents between a pole and a haft is in size and shape and use. the thing the berserker warrior viking has, is to short in relation to the blade, it has a haft, not a pole.

    no matter how you want to look at it the dragoon is using a pole weapon. its got an extremely long pole. btw, vikings did use polearms, but since polearms are given to lancer, its fair to say if they did make a viking job, it wouldnt use a polearm.

    anyhow its not a scythe imo.
    the ax does have a point, and you cant see how long the handle is, so it could very well be longer then the scythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    the ax does have a point, and you cant see how long the handle is, so it could very well be longer then the scythe
    This would contradict itself with the job system. to be a Dragoon, you need first be able to be Lancer, you can only be Lancer if you equip a Polearm type weapon, If he's wielding a scythe then He no longer is a Lancer in the first place and the fact there are no scythes at all in the game sadly
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