Artifact Armors!

[Karvapeikko]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/ffxive.png/

1 : Where is the arm of the pld ? its like the shield and the arm are one...

2 : i just dont know what is this

3 : is it the legs of the DRK/DRG ? if so , his pose would make him really look gay

4: what is that ? from the mnk ?

as for the whole bow / harp, if its a combination i find there is a failure in the perspective

1. You can see the end of his fist above roes face

For others Volsung beat me to it

[ViolentDjango]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/ffxive.png/

1 : Where is the arm of the pld ? its like the shield and the arm are one...

2 : i just dont know what is this

3 : is it the legs of the DRK/DRG ? if so , his pose would make him really look gay

4: what is that ? from the mnk ?

as for the whole bow / harp, if its a combination i find there is a failure in the perspective

1. Even if not for the fact that the Paladin's fist is above the Warrior's head, there's nothing wrong with the arm not being visible.

2 and 3 are the Dragoon's legs.

4 is the Monk's knee, not that hard to distinguish.

There's nothing wrong with the bow, the issue is that you don't know what it is.

That's a Recurve Longbow, If you trace the length of the string to the back of the arrow, then draw the obvious line finishing the length to the bottom of the bow (as is conceivable based on upward angle of the arrow) you realize that the bottom limb of the bow is significantly shorter than the upper limb -- this is because longbows are designed to be able to deliver high levels of upward propulsion to make the arrow fire as far as possible. If you look at a picture of a recurve longbow, you'll notice that the top limb is longer to allow for the upper half of the string to pull downward without causing unnecessary strain on the acher's arm and to allow for lessened upward angling of the bow itself. (If you're using a sight to find your target, having to raise the bow too high would basically make it impossible to use the sight at all.)

http://static.zoovy.com/img/zephyrsp...et1_aby215.jpg

My source? I used to be an aspiring Olympic style archer -- not longbow, but still.

吟遊詩人= Bard
Also, they announced 7 Jobs.
Also, they announced, that for the beginning, there will be one job for each class.
Also, the class->job correspondence is obvious for most jobs, with the arguable exception being CON and THM (which, considering the Japanese name for THM, 呪術師 = Master of Curses, is obvious also).

So we have 7 classes, and 7 confirmed jobs.
The correspondence of 6 of the classes to jobs is clear.
Leaves us with 1 job and 1 class you are in doubt about.
Since in a 1:1 constellation, there is no degree of freedom for correspondence, it logically follows that archer->bard.

The new artwork for the 7 DoW/DoM classes shows the one with a bow to have some "strange apparatus" attached to his weapon.
That "strange apparatus" is thought by many to resemble some sort of stringed instrument.
While you may claim that it doesn't really resemble a lyra ( http://www.google.com/imgres?q=lyra&...w=1229&bih=612 )
you are just refuting the veracity of a minor and ultimately irrelevant detail. As we already know: the only class left to become bard is: Well? Did you listen?

Stop talking hot air about things you can neither read nor understand.

I endorse the idea of the first Archer job being Bard. If you look at the classes, Green Magic (ally buffs) are the single least represented magic in the game currently. I can swallow that SE would introduce a job to remedy that in an attempt to help feel out where jobs like Arcanist need to be placed. Imagine they released Arcanist first, as a buffing class, then released Archer -- one of the two would likely get shafted a la FFXI style job overrides. They've already said they want to get a feel of how magic is going to develop in the game before releasing other magic classes, so I'm hoping Bard drops as a hybrid caster and helps them feel it out. with Bard, we have a Healer (WHM), a Nuker (BLM) and a designated support hybrid.

[Volsung]

1 either his arm is down its length or recurved back to himself under the shield
Karvapeikko pointed out you can see the end of the fist on top of the roe's head.... my bad

2 part of the archer or lancers other leg

3 that is one of the lancers legs, he is lept up into the air with one knee higher, its a classic FF dragoon pose (kain)

4 that is the monks knee

[Rinsui]

No where in that response did it say that bard (wandering minstrel) was going to be one of the first 7 jobs

吟遊詩人= Bard
Also, they announced 7 Jobs.
Also, they announced, that for the beginning, there will be one job for each class.
Also, the class->job correspondence is obvious for most jobs, with the arguable exception being CON and THM (which, considering the Japanese name for THM, 呪術師 = Master of Curses, is obvious also).

So we have 7 classes, and 7 confirmed jobs.
The correspondence of 6 of the classes to jobs is clear.
Leaves us with 1 job and 1 class you are in doubt about.
Since in a 1:1 constellation, there is no degree of freedom for correspondence, it logically follows that archer->bard.

The new artwork for the 7 DoW/DoM classes shows the one with a bow to have some "strange apparatus" attached to his weapon.
That "strange apparatus" is thought by many to resemble some sort of stringed instrument.
While you may claim that it doesn't really resemble a lyra ( http://www.google.com/imgres?q=lyra&...w=1229&bih=612 )
you are just refuting the veracity of a minor and ultimately irrelevant detail. As we already know: the only class left to become bard is: Well? Did you listen?

[CptnGamble]

吟遊詩人= Bard
Also, they announced 7 Jobs.
Also, they announced, that for the beginning, there will be one job for each class.
Also, the class->job correspondence is obvious for most jobs, with the arguable exception being CON and THM (which, considering the Japanese name for THM, 呪術師 = Master of Curses, is obvious also).

So we have 7 classes, and 7 confirmed jobs.
The correspondence of 6 of the classes to jobs is clear.
Leaves us with 1 job and 1 class you are in doubt about.
Since in a 1:1 constellation, there is no degree of freedom for correspondence, it logically follows that archer->bard.

The new artwork for the 7 DoW/DoM classes shows the one with a bow to have some "strange apparatus" attached to his weapon.
That "strange apparatus" is thought by many to resemble some sort of stringed instrument.
While you may claim that it doesn't really resemble a lyra ( http://www.google.com/imgres?q=lyra&...w=1229&bih=612 )
you are just refuting the veracity of a minor and ultimately irrelevant detail. As we already know: the only class left to become bard is: Well? Did you listen?

Whos "they"?, did u go online and subscribe to the online magazine Connect!on and read what they wrote? Which dev gave the confirmed 7 jobs? was it an interview or was it some inside scoop the writer had? where's the official post in the SE forums? If you're only referring Reinhearts translated version of Marc's post, thats far from being anything close to official.

[Rinsui]

I'd ask for proof, but that'd be useless. You pulled all this out of a hat.

And I will. Where the hell did you take this from?

Besides, the appearance of Japanese text in the English version in beta speaks for an oversight during localization Japanese -> English (the original text in localized games is often "overwritten" by the respective local language, but also quite often still present somewhere in the localized game's data).

And I am not aware anything similar happened the other way round.

It is highly unlikely that the main developer team, all of which are situated in Japan, including the world setting and story development, would start out the project in English. Not even the "making of" DVDs showed any English text. Nor did any of the first "Life in Eorzea" videos.

So... you might have mixed something up, perhaps.

[Eekiki]

LOOK CLOSELY.

Those aren't harp strings. Those are ARROWS.

ARROWS.

You can clearly see arrowheads and fletchings.

IT IS NOT A HARP.

[ViolentDjango]

LOOK CLOSELY.

Those aren't harp strings. Those are ARROWS.

ARROWS.

You can clearly see arrowheads and fletchings.

IT IS NOT A HARP.

No...

You can shout it all you want, but no respectable archer would put bows on top of the limb like that -- it serves no practical purpose when you already have a quiver that allows arrows to be easily accessed. The ornamental design of the top of the limb, coupled with the fact that, by itself, it looks like it'd be a very gothic styled harp makes me put a lot more faith in it being a harp attachment.

Furthering the ridiculousness of this preposterous idea, those -strings- are less than half the length of the arrow the character is holding...

That is clearly a harp-type thingy attached to the top of the bow. Without question. Looks a bit weird, but wont knock it until tried!

II does seem weird, but mostly just because its a completely alien concept -- first thing I did when looking at it was imagine myself as an archer trying to play the harp after firing a shot... and it works out.

The most interesting part, in my mind, is the fact that the bow string would actually work like a giant bass note -- so that's pretty cool in my mind.

[Volsung]

LOOK CLOSELY.

Those aren't harp strings. Those are ARROWS.

ARROWS.

You can clearly see arrowheads and fletchings.

IT IS NOT A HARP.

The thought definitely went through my mind too, considering a lot of current hunting bows hold arrows in a similar position. But they are just far too small. Also what seems to be arrowheads may just be empty space, while the top of the string is wrapped around the wood. Also the shape of it is just harp...y.

[ViolentDjango]

The thought definitely went through my mind too, considering a lot of current hunting bows hold arrows in a similar position. But they are just far too small. Also what seems to be arrowheads may just be empty space, while the top of the string is wrapped around the wood. Also the shape of it is just harp...y.

You're talking about side holsters, and those arrows are in a different position.

http://www.gunslingercorral.com/Bow-...nger-focus.jpg

Additionally, most bow hunters use compound bows as opposed to Recurves because they deliver much more power for significantly less effort and make a lot less noise due to the silencers (the sound will -always- get there first no matter how powerful your bow is.)

The size of the character's bow is too huge for it to be a shortbow -- the wooden equivalent of a compound bow with regards to size. On a recurve longbow, the distance you'd have to sling the bow down to reach an arrow placed that high would be about the same, if not longer, than drawing from a quiver, which invalidates the whole purpose of having a side holster. My best friend and his Dad both bow hunt on a yearly basis...