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    Wobble's Avatar
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60

    WHM, MP & Spell Cost

    Has anyone else noticed how fast we run out of MP now? It's even worse than before the level cap was raised. Maybe it's just me?
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    Moonleg Starborn
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    To me it feels like running AV with an undergeared group; perhaps things will be better at max level with raid gear?
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    Masakata Izumi
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Is this at 60? I'm currently 55 and having no issues but I didn't have any issues at 50 either.
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    Wyatt Shalott
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 100
    It doesnt help that all these tanks want to rush through dungeons bc they think they can take hits. Spoiler alert: if i run out of MP you die.

    Anywho. Yeah we run out a lot quicker. Its a big mp managing game. Ive been using shroud and the new aoe ability for mp a lot bit you have to time it lol i guess i like it as is bc you can just spam heal2 unless you want to run out
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    Rynia Tenendora
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    It's a gear issue, I think.

    When we ran the 60 dungeons for the first time it was a nightmare with MP because I had to pump out Cure IIs to keep the tank alive. But the better geared a tank, the easier it becomes, and as a result the mp issues become smaller.
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Leviathan
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Hmm, idk, I haven't gotten around to any of the extreme trials yet, but with assize I can still pull off 3 holy pretty comfortably. This is even including those tanks that pull multiple packs of enemies.

    To be honest, I think the mp got better, if anything.
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    It will ease up as everyone gets gear and locks down their rotations. It's only been a week and tanks are still gearing up. So we won't be able to take hits like we could when we overgeared everything and DPS won't be able to bring monsters down as quickly. The end result is longer fights where you are going to use more mana. Just give it some time and if it still hasn't balanced out in a few weeks, then it's time to do some number crunching.
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Action costs have more than tripled while mp has only doubled is why. Thankfully Assiez helps with that. Its good training to get back out of the "unlimited mp rut" It would sure be nice if the tanks and dps in df realized we are weaker than before the expac, when everyone as way overgeared.
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    The spells must be tweaked to further gear progression for all healers. Did a sync HM trial on sch and the cost difference is huge. Some spells have increased 5 times since 50 but mp pool has not increased 5 fold it is just a little more then doubled. While a pain now will have to see the comparison and forethought near the end of HW.
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    Athaleiya Eclesiance
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd say this is mostly a gear issue, us and the tanks.

    MP cost at lvl 60 has likely been attuned to i180/190/200 gear. Most of us are still obtaining a full i170. Our gear needs to catch up to the lvl 60 plateau.

    On the flip side, the same is true for Tanks who are sitting in i145 doing double pulls in lvl 60 dungeons and expecting to still be just as pro, when in reality they're more like wet paper.

    In my personal experience, since getting into some Yasha gear, my MP problems have dissipated. I often have plenty to go above and beyond in DPSing while providing stable heals in fights.

    Give it time, and don't be afraid to use SoS and Assize when needed.
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