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    Mind the comparisons I was using before against PLD. Reprisal is not included, which is another 10% in their favor which also bridges the gap between Shadow wall and Sentinel. Granted Reprisal isn't available for a long time, has 10s of downtime and its gated by RNG, nor does it stack with Storms path apparently, which means its pretty much only relevant in the context of Drk MT, Pld OT when you want Drk with their Drk Mind for magical tank busters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    Mind the comparisons I was using before against PLD. Reprisal is not included, which is another 10% in their favor which also bridges the gap between Shadow wall and Sentinel. Granted Reprisal isn't available for a long time, has 10s of downtime and its gated by RNG, nor does it stack with Storms path apparently, which means its pretty much only relevant in the context of Drk MT, Pld OT when you want Drk with their Drk Mind for magical tank busters.
    Makes me feel even more that both Reprisal should be a self buff instead of a debuff, and locked behind it's CD with a chance for parry to reset it than what we currently have. Quite honestly it would be more reliable, and the soft defensive buff that we stack with Shadowskin or something when needed.

    Hell switch the INT down to magic dmg down, let MNK's keep their debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    Mind the comparisons I was using before against PLD. Reprisal is not included, which is another 10% in their favor which also bridges the gap between Shadow wall and Sentinel. Granted Reprisal isn't available for a long time, has 10s of downtime and its gated by RNG, nor does it stack with Storms path apparently, which means its pretty much only relevant in the context of Drk MT, Pld OT when you want Drk with their Drk Mind for magical tank busters.
    For Magic tank busters, I think a Warrior MT is likely still better. People seem to be forgetting that a flat percentage of damage reduction does exactly what Dark Mind does for us, hell even more unless the Dark Mind is buffed with Dark Arts. Though even then, there is still the question of whether or not 'magic vulnerability' works the same as raw damage percent mitigation. (I'm not entirely sure)

    Just because we have a 10% Int debuff, and a skill that is limited to magic mitigation, doesn't mean magic is our thing really when the other tanks can possibly do the exact same thing as us, within their raw damage mitigation. If it's a fight like Ramuh, then you can toss Reprisal out the window. Storms Path at least can be kept up no matter what, and permanently, unlike Reprisal even if you could use it.

    We cant exactly sit on Reprisal either due to how short the availability window of it is after a parry.
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    Last edited by Ditto; 06-27-2015 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto View Post
    For Magic tank busters, I think a Warrior MT is likely still better. People seem to be forgetting that a flat percentage......
    Magic is rather blatantly the dark knights thing.
    If you don't have a monk on the party where does -Int come to mitigate magical dmg? Drk.
    Inner Beast is 20% to everything, Drk Mind reaches 30% to magical. Drk Mind is more potent only so far as magical damage is concerned. If the 30% isn't flat mitigation to magical well then Lol, but under the presumption that it is, it clearly gives Drk something they do well at.


    Is reprisal clunky? Yes, absolutely, no argument from me there, but it is potent when available.
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