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  1. #21
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gresham, OR
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    744
    Character
    Renabi Rena
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitria View Post
    Wait, this isn't the place to say I'm changing my main to Bard? Bu- but the HW skills look so cool.

    In all seriousness, are there any videos of someone parsing less with WM on than without it? I can't seem to find any.
    Therein lies the problem, I personally cannot actually parse on the PS4, so I have no idea how my damage is playing out with it on versus with it off. Personally, I keep it on unless a certain mob group or boss demands a lot of moving. Even if it doesn't actually do more dps, it's good practice since there's no way SE is going to leave Bard how it is and I'm expecting either a nerf to non-WM dps or a buff to WM. I know I posted this somewhere else, but I'm pretty sure everyone's on the fence about the potency of WM because they haven't fixed the fact you can use Sidewinder outside of WM.
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  2. #22
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    ChalupaBatman's Avatar
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    Sep 2014
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    58
    Character
    Shu Kuchi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    Not changing main per say because I love BRD, but I also play Ninja very well and our current Nin wants to plat MCH.

    It works out for me because it will be super easy to gear since I can already use the right side accessories and have also gotten the Hive weap for both classes, its basically i180 as soon as it gets to 60 which is 2 levels away.

    It was easy to decide a switch from BRD because of how lackluster they are currently, for sure, and the convenient gear path and overall fun factor of Nin made it a easy switch.
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  3. #23
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    Zophar's Avatar
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    Character
    Mayong Mistmoore
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitria View Post
    In all seriousness, are there any videos of someone parsing less with WM on than without it? I can't seem to find any.
    See, here's the thing about it. On a straight dummy round, it's comparable. For the sake of argument, let's say that it's not a dps loss in a turret fight. We'll say, worst case, you break even, best case, you up your dps by, say, about 5%. In fact, let's go straight with the 5% added dps option. And I know people are gonna respond to me saying that it's not an increase or whatever, but please, keep in mind, I'm just writing out a hypothetical scenario. Anyway, say it's a 5% damage increase in total, compared to the arsenal many of the other dps got, 5% is effectively, nothing. In our best case scenario, with no movement at all, our dps increase this update isn't even on the same plane as those of, well, any of the classes, dps or otherwise.


    Now, in a real fight, we must factor in dodge mechanics, and, even if you know how to play with WM brd perfectly, I'm talking blm mode, knowing when to save SS procs and so on so forth, you are going to lose that 5% bonus, no matter how good you are. WM goes off, and we are, effectively, a 2.0 brd again, while every other job, is still a 3.0 job. This is all factored in on a 5% bonus. Even with a 10% bonus, the results wouldn't be much better. Anything worse is, well, I don't need to tell you.

    Bottom line, with the most optimistic eyes, the additions to brd can't be viewed as anything short of, insufficient. I'd be fine with still being slightly behind the other dps, like we were in 2.0. But we're much more than just slightly behind now.
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    Content too hard? Too much rng? Too much effort for the item you want?

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