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  1. #1
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    Jericho_Cross's Avatar
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    Jericho Cross
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70

    Another Bard post, changing mains? Discuss!

    I am pretty much really salty right now. I am 59 and I have yet to reach 60 because I have other obligations, well I found out tonight before maintenance that our little big skill at 60, Sidewinder doesn't even proc Barrage, and THAT was the last straw for me.

    My question is, are you going to change Job and if so, into what? I firstly picked the Job because it was my favorite archetype of any fantasy and the mobility was a huge bonus.

    And secondly, will you revisit the Job? I will revisit the job if they ever change it, or when the job is brought more in line with the other classes. Hopefully MCHs get the same treatment. A tank in DPS stance can be on par with us, kind of a joke really.

    I know there are a lot of bards out there that feels the same way I do but I just want to know if there are any of my fellow bards that are dropping their bows too. It is not a protest, it is not anger, typing this out made me realize that I am just sad.

    #foreversalty
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    Last edited by Jericho_Cross; 06-25-2015 at 05:03 PM.

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    SleepyJay's Avatar
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    Character
    Sleepy Jay
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    Yea, I dropped it T.T

    Just doesn't feel fun so I lvled a MCH to try that out. Starting to not enjoy the feel of it as much and I don't know where I'm gonna go next. Maybe NIN or heals.

    I totally feel you on the sad part.
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Character
    Aeon Rakshasa
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Uh nope....
    Bard life forever. I'm fine with the change, at least the concept. And I don't think WM is going to go away. I do predict a buff in the damage output, however, since everyone is complaining. (I never read anywhere about Sidewinder proc Barrage...was that a thing?)
    I'm staying with bard. I'm still okay overall not doing high DPS because we are still a walking TP/MP regenerator. (We can't have top DPS, regen, and hit everything from everywhere).

    I also picked bard because it was this game's archer. I was sad that there wasn't a ranger class, but that was okay. I still decided to be the best bard I could.
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    Professional's Avatar
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    Lotus Suteki
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    They do need to change a lot of aspects of bard in 3.0, hopefully before Savage Alex. There's no reason a Warrior should be able to outDPS any "DPS" role. If SE intended on that they should just throw bard in a separate category titled "Support" and create a true archer class or something. The whole situation with oGCDs being nearly impossible at times (especially flaming arrow) is really annoying. That and the random silence glitch where you can't attack anything for awhile. They could do a number of things to buff bards and I think they already know what those things are, so just a matter of time for them to figure out the #s. You won't see anyone playing the class if it isn't fixed because right now it's quite frankly garbage. Sadly I need to stay on it for progression and can't find any relief from MCH since that's garbage too.
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  5. #5
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    FaerieAura's Avatar
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    Character
    Sjel Arda
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    I'm considering it, and I'm considering just taking a break from the game altogether. I get frustrated every time I log in, because it really just makes my favorite class unfun to play. As others have mentioned, the mere fact that the tank classes can literally out-DPS a skilled bard right now is just disheartening, and it shows that there wasn't much foresight put into how Wanderer's Minuet works.

    If I do change, I'll probably go Summoner for DPS, with Scholar as my healer. At least they're still somewhat mobile.
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    Kitkat's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaliga Moonshade
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Honestly, I've never been one to feel brd should be over the top DPS, but my primary...and still existing complaint is that weapon damage is still lacking. I'm glad they lowered the debuff of Paeon/ballad to 15% instead of 20%, but with still lowest weapon damage out of any other job prior to 2.0 (which even machinist ended up with) it begs to wonder what their reasoning is.

    WP isn't too bad as far as I'm concerned as it is a nice boost in damage. While this translates to DoTs (along with Skill speed change) it doesn't necessarily inch brd up that much in comparison to other jobs either.

    A lot of fundamental changes to certain job playstyles went out with 3.0 and I can only hope that as Alexander and a few other things come out that they make more sense. I have no problem filling a niche role, but the disparity in damage is and always has been noticeable.
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    Last edited by Kitkat; 06-25-2015 at 10:41 PM.

  7. #7
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    SonTensei's Avatar
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    Son Tensei
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    When you play with really high end healers who manage mana very efficiently, bards/mch wont be needed. maybe for progression, but once people got the fights on farm you will see people not using bards/mch at all due to low dps.
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    Scyris's Avatar
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    Siveria Starfire
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SonTensei View Post
    When you play with really high end healers who manage mana very efficiently, bards/mch wont be needed. maybe for progression, but once people got the fights on farm you will see people not using bards/mch at all due to low dps.
    This makes me sadface, I already was considering dropping bard due to the changes, but stuff like this just makes me want to do it more, my bard is my main at 53 almost 54, but I am thinking of just dropping it for now and leveling my paladin to 60, maybe by then square will get their crap together and fix bard to be viable.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kelevra Vice
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I don't plan to switch mains.

    I'm in the minority and like the idea with Minuet. My problem with it isn't the loss of mobility, but the dmg I should be able to do with it should be much higher than what I can do with it right now.
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    Smeggles's Avatar
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    Character
    Smeggles Unbound
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    I'm going to main FSH, it does more damage and doesnt have a clunky as hell playstyle.
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