Thread: The Hunt 3.0

TL;DR: Server maintenance so here's a bunch of nonsense for you to read.

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The S/A rank hunts are clearly designed exactly for people to zerg them as a never-ending seal farm. It's just designed for those who likes to do it. If you don't like it, don't do it. I don't.

Yes I upgrade my gear slower than those who zerg hunts, so what? Only 170 is required to enter Alexander. And Alexander (Normal) most certainly will drop the upgrade tokens, too. And it's not that I don't get any seals. Daily hunts also give seals.

I just ignore the S/A rank hunts like I ignore PvP. Those are stuff that I don't like, so they're clearly not designed for me. Let other people have their fun.

Now on the topic of the toxic people that invariably pop up to ruin the good atmosphere for others.

Free-for-all systems like this tend to bring out the worst in people. Greed and selfishness. Farming these gives people a sense of superiority (I have 180, you've only got 170, I skill elite, you noob lol) and that virtual superiority is exactly what these people look for in MMORPGs. Of course not everyone who do hunts are like this. I'm specifically pointing to those jerks that inevitably exist.

Lack of a real server community to exert peer pressure means that the world has no rules. ("I know that guy, he's got a stinking mouth and nobody likes him, let's not party with him." This used to mean something when you need to maintain a passable reputation if you want to party with the skilled players.) There's an enormous grey zone into which GMs will not venture; it is in this grey zone that these people thrive, and the only way to deal with them is to assume they don't exist.

If it wasn't hunts, these people will do their stuff somewhere else. Those jerks in the DF? Yes, they're the same people. They are the types portrayed in survival stories that revert to their very primal instincts the moment they realize nobody is there to enforce moral rules upon them. They take joy in annoying more people while ensuring their own gain. It is an achievement for them to be "above the (moral) law".

The hunts are designed to accommodate those people. Like the DF. It is clearly part of the design intent.

Hunts have always been up and down. They were reasonably ok in 2.3, then in 2.4 no one did them so you couldn't even get a group together sometimes, then 2.5 they made them necessary to upgrade the poetics gear and by the time you got the call about the hunt it was probably already pulled and dead which continued till they implemented the CT marathon weekly when they went back to about 2.3 level.

Now people are desperate to get centrino seals and just generally impatient, this combined with the stupid instancing of areas means that hunts are almost impossible to reach unless your already in the area, and sometimes not even then.

What I'm saying is that they will eventually calm down again and until then there's not much we can do about it, so you can either keep trying to get to them (in which case I say all power to you and wish you luck) or accept that unless your lucky and one falls in your lap you wont get any of them.

Originally Posted by Alfendi

I was discussing this with some friends earlier. One brought up the idea that as soon as someone comes within a certain amount of yalms of a hunt that a mark be placed on that particular hunt to make it invulnerable until about three to five minutes later to wait for everyone that wants to kill it to come in time. While people might complain, the spawn time in between all of the hunts are quite long and a few minutes of waiting should hardly matter.

Or make them harder to kill. It's pathetic how fast they drop right now. I expected more out of 3.0 hunt monsters myself.

it also baffles me that they didn't learn from hunts in 2.0. Its a joke how long and hard fates are(they are not HARD, don't get me wrong but if you are near one, its not worth doing it since everythign is kinda buffed and takes way too long to kill) with that many people in areas they go down in 5 secs. Why not just buff them a lot, like fates. So if a certain amount of people is close the hp and def rises - or - if the hp goes down fast, the def. rises a lot making it a loooot longer to kill.

And on the other hand... just give us more options to earn hunt marks. Maybe also as a combo in dungeons. That would also give incentive to do them besides helping friends and - later on- tomes.

they did a lot of things right in heavensward, but the core problems are untouched. that is really disappointing.
- hunts are basicly a joke right now
- dungeon-qs for dps still are same bad
- let's hope that endgame will get more positive changes ...

Originally Posted by Musashidon

you can always do 2.0 Rank S's they give both kinds of seals and both kinds of tomes. (at least from what i hear)

A's might even give some (not sure) but if they do then you should be able to hunt a bit without having to worry about the toxic zerg.

leveling AST yesterday when we all started lagging and some red icon popped.....then chat exploded ....was amusing how things changed
from LFG !!! to WAIT PLEASE!!! to T_T / Rage calling names ...in less than 1 min , is 2.3 all over again