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  1. #51
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    l---------------l's Avatar
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    I'''''l I'''''l
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Honestly, I don't know where the trouble is...

    I also started my new adventure in heavensward areas with my WHM, that said, I entered new dungeons without having knowledge of anything, most of time people not saying a single tip, or we all new...

    To heal + DPS + realize strats is not that difficult, isn't it?......

    BE WARE, SPOILER, DON'T CONTINUE READNG IF YOU DIDN'T REACH LEVEL 56-ISH IN MAIN STORY





    For example one wipe I had in Nidhogg fight was that it made a big area attack. I suddenly noticed and, by logic comprehended that, if the great wyrm was about to do a brutal area, the best place to stand on would be close to Eistinien, since he had the power of the eye with him. And it worked! I saw a barrier popping up on him and swiflty ran there. Sadly the other 3 didn't.

    Still, no problem at all, told them how to do and we killed the beast at 2nd try.
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  2. #52
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    Nothing is story mode is hard after they nerfed Steps of Faith - that was the only one with some difficulty but not anymore.
    Each boss now can be explained in a few lines of instructions.
    The Chrysalis:
    Boss go in middle - run into balls around room - alternate if possible
    Meteor phase - tanks catch meteors - dps kill vortex

    You can choose to explain more if you want but it is not really necessary and lol@healing chrysalis is hard. The boss gives you huge ass cast time warning that double/triple is coming and THEN casts sparks, we don't get that luxury in coil much.
    You forgot the portal

    Portal: run to the edge of the arena to delay that the portal suck you in. Wait until your bleeding debuff timer is by 8-5s. Then activate all your buffs. The moment the bleeding end you get automatic sucked into the portal and the remain timers of your buffs (and debuff if you enter the portal with the bleeding) get multiple.
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  3. #53
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    Rhysati's Avatar
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    The idea that you need to research the dungeons in the story is somewhat laughable. You really don't.

    But I agree that they should NOT be barriers to your continuation of the story. Frequently some of my free time to play falls in the very early morning before I go to work for the day. During that time I was wanting to progress my story so that I could get into heavensward(this was the day before the servers went down to apply early access). Unfortunately after 2 hours of waiting(on Balmung, the busiest server and data center there is), I couldn't get a group, thus barred from continuing my story as I desired to do.

    THAT is a problem. And it will only get worse as people level their characters high enough that they never have any reason to do those story-specific dungeons and trials again.
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  4. #54
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    Alinda Thorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    You should find another game to play.
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  5. #55
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    Sophia Miyuki
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    Spriggan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I find really funny this thread. So your main problem is that a mmorpg is actually making you think and actually pay attention and most likely to learn how to play , progress with the class you have chosen. Gee, I should suggest to play dunno tetris , but even that needs an attention span and some thought process. Overall , if you're not able to have a class progression , please do enlighten me how on earth will you be able to play further in the game and well sync with the other people to make a 24 raid or pvp? After playing 8 years of L2, the only thing I can say about this : it's a bad suggestion and all those who want this might as well find another genre of a game .
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  6. #56
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    Perceval Haizen
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 80
    The OP asks SE to remove the "difficult story fights" so he can play a visual novel game by clicking through the cutscenes? Wow, just wow. Why are you even playing a Healer class then if you are complaining about the pressure people put on you? Just because of the faster queue times?
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  7. #57
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    TamurilRains's Avatar
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    Tamuril Lonesorrow
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Unfortunately after 2 hours of waiting(on Balmung, the busiest server and data center there is), I couldn't get a group, thus barred from continuing my story as I desired to do.

    THAT is a problem. And it will only get worse as people level their characters high enough that they never have any reason to do those story-specific dungeons and trials again.
    Agreed completely. Having to complete content that nobody wants to do anymore in order to access the new content is bad design. Unless SE either cut back on the required quests needed to enter HW or give incentives for level 60 players to help out then the only people who will be able to reliably access HW in the future will be those in a FC or with friends. No doubt someone will jump in here and tell me that friends and a FC are needed in this game anyway (which I know), but it shouldn't be a barrier to progress into more SOLO content.
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  8. #58
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TamurilRains View Post
    Agreed completely. Having to complete content that nobody wants to do anymore in order to access the new content is bad design. Unless SE either cut back on the required quests needed to enter HW or give incentives for level 60 players to help out then the only people who will be able to reliably access HW in the future will be those in a FC or with friends. No doubt someone will jump in here and tell me that friends and a FC are needed in this game anyway (which I know), but it shouldn't be a barrier to progress into more SOLO content.
    There will always be a reason to do older content - roulettes.
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  9. #59
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    Chandani Aranka
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I actually love having to do dungeons for story as it makes me feel more immersed facing more difficult challenges unlike in WOW where the entire leveling experience as well as story is soloable.
    I have done all dungeons and primals up to lvl 58, and I have not read or viewed guides of any of the fights, I learn them as I do them which is so much more fun than knowing everything that is coming :P
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  10. #60
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    Aven Pathfinder
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    So Far I've done every dungeon, encounter and even some of coil blind with a group of people who also like to experience the same thing. The joy of exploration, of finding new things. After I have completed something I might go take a look at what the accepted strategy is but often times I will ignore that in favour of my own that I feel works better for me. Best example I can give is on Titan HM when it first came out and when the bombs drop. From my time as both main tank and dpsing it I learned there are several "safe" spots across the map that mean that I don't have to spend time wandering around the arena and as a BLM dps not moving is key. No one else I've played with does it this way and a few people I've seen try usually end up taking one or both bombs(as to do it you need to stand in the middle of several).

    The other thing to keep in mind is that the dungeon will give you hints and clues as to how mechanics work if you keep your eyes open. Look at the arenas themselves see what is present in them a good example of this is the AK HM first boss and the AK NM Last boss. There are statues in there and from previous encounters with enemies you know you can break line of sight by having something in between you and the originator of the spell. My point is no encounter is unbeatable in the first or second try blind as long as you pay attention to your surroundings so you're argument that I need to research these first is bull.
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