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  1. #241
    Player Fortified's Avatar
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    Rino Bakaro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    @Fortified, no, i think this is still within the guidelines to be about 14, as both sides are saying why or why not OPs request would or wouldnt be fullfiled(i dont think it would happen). we all just so happen to be using other things to help the debate.
    No, now it's just a lot of "loli is bad", "loli isn't bad", and a discussion on what is pedophilia.

    This isn't FFXIV related; take it somewhere else.
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  2. #242
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    jars's Avatar
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    Juni Esura
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    I propose they be called miniqo'tes
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  3. #243
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    Evy Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
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    There is a difference between playing something cute and then making a child playable character. Regardless of how OP clarifies their opening post, it gave the impression that they wanted to play as a child Miqo'te. Which caused this whole thing to snowball into the discussion it is now.

    Which frankly, yeah, we could play as kids. I'd welcome it. However a good amount of quest dialogue is going to have to be toned down specifically for people playing that race/age character to avoid controversy (Thancred and Haurchefaunt flirting with a ten year old Miqo'te child of either gender isn't exactly going to go over well no matter which way you spin it). And given SE's track record, they're not going to put in that extra work for an age variation for a race if they're not even willing to add extra/different dialogue for the races we have now.

    It's a shame that people automatically assume loli/lolita = child = pedo. I agree with that. It really is, because over the 40+ years lolita has become a term that now identifies a style of dress and just people (usually girls) that look younger than they are. There shouldn't be any bashing over the style itself or liking it.

    So on topic: Yes, more cute races. More than happy to have them. But for the sake of not getting one of these threads starting again, let's just avoid kid characters altogether (unless SE can prove they can handle it responsibly).
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  4. #244
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    Shiro-Koizumi's Avatar
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    A'lsiel Tia
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    What if they added a quest where the WoL was turned into a child via some random magical mishap....(google Detective Conan)
    basically they're only physically a kid, but that way dialogue and crap wouldn't have to be toned down for them.

    Personally I think a side quest for it would be hilarious considering SE's story telling

    -edit

    Also what they gave you an option to stay a kid or grow back up. And after a year you could choose to revert back if you so choose, and so on and so on...
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  5. #245
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    T'rahnu Ihka
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    ^ That's an entertaining idea. I can't see them ever doing it, because by the Twelve that is a TON of work for something that'd be for funzies... but maybe as a replacement for Hildebrand quests...? Hmmm....

    Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
    There is a difference between playing something cute and then making a child playable character. Regardless of how OP clarifies their opening post, it gave the impression that they wanted to play as a child Miqo'te. Which caused this whole thing to snowball into the discussion it is now.

    Which frankly, yeah, we could play as kids. I'd welcome it. However a good amount of quest dialogue is going to have to be toned down specifically for people playing that race/age character to avoid controversy (Thancred and Haurchefaunt flirting with a ten year old Miqo'te child of either gender isn't exactly going to go over well no matter which way you spin it). And given SE's track record, they're not going to put in that extra work for an age variation for a race if they're not even willing to add extra/different dialogue for the races we have now.

    It's a shame that people automatically assume loli/lolita = child = pedo. I agree with that. It really is, because over the 40+ years lolita has become a term that now identifies a style of dress and just people (usually girls) that look younger than they are. There shouldn't be any bashing over the style itself or liking it.

    So on topic: Yes, more cute races. More than happy to have them. But for the sake of not getting one of these threads starting again, let's just avoid kid characters altogether (unless SE can prove they can handle it responsibly).
    You raise a good point, and I agree that that would be more trouble than it's worth. Too much would have to change for it to work credibly from an in-story perspective. I'd rather stick with the new in-between Lalaqo'te race idea.
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
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    That's an idea I can get behind, definitely. And a few have been mentioning it. I don't think other MMOs have had hybrid creation be accessible, and it seems like it would give us the best of both worlds if they didn't skimp out on features we could choose from. Because I will gladly agree: Lalaqo'te would be pretty adorable. And people could mix Roes and Au Ra for some truly fierce or sexy creations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro-Koizumi View Post
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    This game has been brought up already, but Mabinogi (Korean f2p) actually was built around a similar system. The idea was your character ages 1 year every real week, their height and features changing accordingly. Each week they'd be granted stat bonuses and ability points (points spent to learn skills) based on what age you turned. At age 20, you can now rebirth for free to at max age 10.

    So if a f2p from 2008 could get the system going, it's not too difficult for today. But their entire combat system was pretty different from FF14. No classes, all characters could learn every skill in the game from various schools of skills (save race specific). Their class or "destiny" system only grants growth bonuses. You can use any skills you want whenever you want. But FF14 is also not that far from that school of thought. Even if it was cosmetic or if you got some kind of bonus for changing to a kid for awhile, it would be fun.
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  7. #247
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    Fortunately, them not adding this version of the Miqo'te would be the equivalent of leavings tons of money on the table. I'm sure many would race change to this particular version of the Miqo'te.

    Hopefully... more variety is a good thing, imo. Besides, players can already play as toddlers in the game--why bar players from accessing other human development stages? Let's add 'em all!

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  8. #248
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    Lucille Wallace
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    So, basically, thumbs down for this variation/race/idea.
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  9. #249
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    Dread I think you misunderstood. What I meant is that in the hypothetical quest.. you could choose to stay a kid, but you wouldn't be able to change back to an adult until a year passed. Basically it adds weight to the decision you make rather than just fantasia'ing whenever you fancy. Nothing gets locked you're still the WoL, just tinier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    So, basically, thumbs down for this variation/race/idea.
    OFF-TOPIC: I'm sorry but I thought you looked goregous has a Highlander.
    Au ra still nice just wanted to say.
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