Metal Gear Solid : Ground Zeros. Paz and Chico are tortured, brutally, for information. The rape is 'highly suggested' to have happened. Chico is shown to have had bolts put through his Achilles Tendons. A hole is punctured into his chest that, in his now-mentally broken state, he uses as a headphone jack. When Snake rescues him, he freaks out to the point that Snake has to strangle him til he passes out, lest he alerts the guards. Paz is later found to be in a far worse state. Once rescued and on a helicopter, Snake discovers she has a bomb in her abdomen. It is 'not so delicately' removed, with Chico assisting in holding her guts in. This is shown. She comes to later, informs Snake there's another bomb where 'Snake would not think to look' (guess), then promptly leaps out of the helicopter and explodes.
In the next game, Phantom Pain, we find out the resulting explosion maimed several key characters and killed Chico. Another 'what if I had...' cut scene happens where the doctor... goes for the second bomb. It's not shown in graphic detail, but you *know* what just happened. Snake later encounters a boy around 12 named Eli who tries to kill him using anything he can get his hands on (knife, bottles, pipes). This results in a non-lethal beat down that is about as violent as anything in XIV would be. Eli later attempts another stabbing on Snake, who gets annoyed and just dislocates his arm. On screen. Pop. He then pops it back in out of pitty. Pop pop. Then there's the whole slew of child soldiers you can mess with. Grant it, being lethal is instant failure. But let's say you wanted to run full speed at one and sock him in the jaw with your robot hand, or send your cattle-prod equipped wolf-dog to zap one... 10-4 Good buddy, have at it.
Dragon's Dogma let you create a child-like character. In this game, you went after all sorts of monsters and witnessed some very gruesome things. But the key thing I want to point out is that you can romance any NPC in the game. ANY. NPC. IN. THE. GAME (except like 2). That includes children (who you can do all sorts of things to, like throwing off a cliff). You are treated to at least two 'pants on hugging' scenes. 3 if you go for the princess.
Those are the 3 top of my head examples.
Hell, even Mortal Kombat has some sort of giant ridding midget kid looking thing now. Grant it, all fatalities are performed on her uh.. mount? but she's still the one gutting and ripping people in two.
The violence in XIV is so very, very tame. That's the main thing I find hilarious about these threads. Things get blown way out of proportion. We get set on fire? No we don't. Look at what happens when we 'do'. Our characters shrug off EVERYTHING thrown at them. We are essentially invincible. Nothing leaves any damage to us, except our hp. And even then, we just get 'knocked out', not killed. And hell... when my lala goes down, it looks more like he's saying 'Meh.. I'm going to take a nap. Right here'. rather than 'omg the pain!' The most gruesome scene in the whole game reminded me of the scene in Toy Story where Buzz lost his arm...
I could see the hesitation if there were blood, gore, guts and dismemberment.. but this is nothing. DBZ has way more violence towards children than XIV ever will.
As for swimsuits and subligars... Those can be easily edited, (the subligar probably should). But I do need to point out that brief-style swimsuits are popular through out the world. The US is one of the few nations that seem to have an actual problem with them.
As for that drawing of the perk.. Yeah. That IS distasteful and he should get flak for it. But nothing like that exists in XIV.
LOL Too bad you didn't see the thread where two interbutts lawyerz went at it over what constitutes pornography. That one was a riot.So, this all comes down to "there is something we can't have because if we did have it, someone, somewhere would do bad things with it", right?
Sadly, you can say that about almost anything these days, one way or another someone somewhere will do bad things with it.
What bothers me more are the sweeping generalizations that almost vilify anyone (in this case) who likes the look of that possibly younger Miqo'te. Has this become a matter for the thought police and all of you have been deputized?
Oh god, I bet it was. It never ceases to amaze me how people can get so wound up about exactly what constitute p0rn with regards to something that is drawn and includes no real persons at all...
...and now I shall wait while people make assumptions about me and start throwing completely undeserved mud in my direction.
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That's okay. According to one [dumbassed] police officer somewhere in the US, the game Animal Crossing is only played by pedophiles.Oh god, I bet it was. It never ceases to amaze me how people can get so wound up about exactly what constitute p0rn with regards to something that is drawn and includes no real persons at all...
...and now I shall wait while people make assumptions about me and start throwing completely undeserved mud in my direction.
Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road
Link please.
Point is, it still got published, did it not? Did you see anything about it in the papers? Did you see mass protests and the hysteria that people claim will happen in XIV if we get child characters? And my point still stands. What happened in those games were far, far more violent, graphic and terrifying than anything we've seen in XIV. And yet, they were published.
What about Kingdom Hearts? Sora starts around 10-11 years old. That game is just as violent, to perhaps just a little less violent due to lack of arms falling off, and it's an extremely well received game. The only thing I saw about it on the news was 'Hey look! Disney characters!'
Also, Pokemon. Under-aged, unsupervised child goes around poaching dangerous animals and participating in legalized animal fights and gambles while dealing with a criminal organization. Only the extreme whack-jobs find fault with that game.
Child Link in OOT and Majora's Mask.
Hanbei Takanaka in SW3/4/OW3. Child CAWs in DW8 Empires (mow down THOUSANDS of enemy soldiers, and get married and have kids to boot).
Suikoden. Child characters join AN ARMY and participate in massive battles. If the child is not essential to the plot, he can be killed in that battle. Killed off for real. Also, Pilikia witnesses the ruthless slaughtering of her parents. The leader of said armies is usually a tween and duels people to the death. Tir can even order people to be executed.
Last of Us and The Walking Dead (TaleTell). 'Nuff said right there.
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FFXIV of course.
There's an adorable child Miqo'te adventurer who shows up by Midnight Dew (10-29) from time to time. She does vanish, so it's easy to actually miss her.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind turning her in to a retainer and sticking her outside as a sales girl, but actually playing as a child or seeing one in the dungeons is a little off-putting.
Great pic btw.
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