So, why isn't this a thing yet?

[Zyrusticae]

And a lot of people have voiced against the idea, and forcing them to have to play in a world they're not comfortable with because the opinions of a few is just as bad.

To put it bluntly, those people are their own problem.

Take a moment to think about the absurdity of peoples' minds going into the gutter as soon as a playable childlike race appears, even when they're treated exactly the same as every other race in-universe. Whose fault is it that their minds are going into the gutter? Certainly not the design of the race, nor Square Enix.

Let's not forget that people can already be dirty and creepy with the existing palette of races. Case in point. If you hardly ever see people being dirty with scantily-clad catgirls being available, what in the world convinces you that there would be such a large number of new, dirtier-minded players just because of the addition of a race that fills the niche between Miqo'te and Lalafell?

It's not Square Enix's job to coddle people because a few players like to do things that make others uncomfortable. They can sell to whoever is willing to pay money to play their game, and if that means catering to underserved niches, then that's what they're going to do. Period.

I was making a point of the character's appearance, which isn't established in this game.

Two words:

Bravely Default.



You've already lost.

[myahele]

Not much better, but there's is censorship in certain regions:


As far as I know, the Tera's Elin are also specifically censored eventhough the "humans" of that get aren't censored to the degree as the Elin are.

[Mimilu]

Not much better, but there's is censorship in certain regions:

Not to mention both are teens in Japan and young adults in the NA/PAL version.

[Zyrusticae]

Not to mention both are teens in Japan and young adults in the NA/PAL version.

We've been over this already. This is irrelevant because the same can be said of Lalafell and a hypothetical Lalaqo'te race. The only thing that matters is what they look like.

I, personally, would like people to take such characters as adults (which they (as in Lalafell/Lalaqo'te, not the BD cast) are designed as in-universe), but apparently a number of people have hang-ups with the separation between RL and fantasy. Hmmm, I wonder who's at fault there...

Edit: Let me be clear: crappy writing can make it extremely obvious when someone is just straight-up pedo-pandering, and I am entirely in agreement that that sort of thing is rather gross. On the other hand, if the characters look a lot like children, but are obviously written as and treated as adults like Lalafell are in-game, there shouldn't be any issues. If anything, that just makes things more interesting, as it's a hugely far cry from anything you'd ever see in reality...

If you leave your bicycle out in a shoddy neighborhood and you know it's a shoddy neighborhood, and it gets stolen. Is it the bikes fault? the person who stole it's fault? or is it the developers fault for giving them the tools to enable them to do so.

If someone can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality and is convinced by a violent video game that shooting people is fun and goes out to do the deed, is it the fault of the gun maker, the vendor that sold the gun, the person who owned the gun who that person stole from, the video game maker, the person who did the shooting, the parents for failing to raise the person correctly, or genetic mutation itself for allowing the genetic potential for someone to be born so damaged?

The answer: Who gives a crap? This is irrelevant. Stick with the topic, please.

Edit #2: To explain why your analogy sucks, you're talking about someone doing obviously criminal deeds vs. a handful of morons making people slightly uncomfortable through either words or dress. The analogy fails on its premise.

[Chambers]

quote.

If you leave your bicycle out in a shoddy neighborhood and you know it's a shoddy neighborhood, and it gets stolen. Is it the bikes fault? the person who stole it's fault? or is it the developers fault for giving them the tools to enable them to do so.

[nuyu11]

I'm a "minicon" who love and adore a small and cute things.

[AlphaFox]

Yet as someone who checks Rule 34 (Don't care) I've seen my fair share of "established characters" in provocative positions. The main argument I see from a lot of people is that it's going to promote creepy people but they are already here. Hell, I had a whisper my first month playing from a Roe asking "Would you like to see your belly bulge?" I just find it funny, personally as for child like race I am going to look at them the same way I see Lalafells, adorable. Yes I get creepy or weird PMs but that's what the blacklist is for. Don't like the way someone is talking or acting with their race, block em or report them if they are being bad enough. Besides, if the creepy people are only joining cus of the new race, do you really expect them to play and get up the Heavensward expansion just cus of a sick enjoyment?

[AlphaFox]

The main point about Bravely Default is it was SquareEnix who chose this, censored or not. We know they have no issue in doing it.

[Celi]

I want to play a race like this, but would honestly prefer if they kept them classy instead of giving them sex appeal. I don't think the majority of people who want to play them want them to be "sexy" either. They just want to play something cute.

If they gave this race the same designs that lala'fell have for gear like swimsuits and stuff then I don't see why lala'fell would be considered okay and these wouldn't?

[Samcaesar]

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Acting like people being incredibly cautious about allowing pedophiles to feel safer and more accepted into the game is a bad thing, "lol".


Why do we need it? Hell, they're other niches I'd say that need to have more of a focus, such as a race with big tough women and small cute men, especially with the inclusion of the Au Ra. Turns out, we've got different ideas. The issue is the "Loliqo'te" has some really creepy things attached to it, while making a race with reverse sexual dimorphism isn't! I might be fine with it if the children were locked in the tin can armor sets forever.

Cool, last thing we need to do is allow people to do that sort of stuff even easier. Just because people will sexualize it, doesn't mean we should both allow it to continue and make it easier to happen. I mean shoot, people are gonna do plenty of awful things, laws and social pressures exist to prevent those sorts of things because they are objectively bad.

It doesn't but it sure as heck makes it a lot more possible. The point is, creating a race that is literally meant to look even more like a child is going to continue to encourage pedophiles and other creeps to waltz into the game feeling welcomed. The point is, creeps will see this game as a more welcoming place for them if they see the devs creating a race that fits their gross tastes. The worst part, is FFXIV might end up in a TERA situation, where devs begin to cater to those creeps, get away with it by saying "Lol don't worry! We don't condone it, we just can't stop it from happening!", and the end result? The community becomes an awful place for normal people who don't want to be associated with creeps. Hint hint, normal people don't want to see children running around in sexualized outfits, especially whenever it's an adult behind the character. I'm sorry, but if you'd prefer the game be a safe place for pedos to express their crap over a safe place for people to not have to worry about that sick stuff, you're morally wrong.

The issue is arachnophobia is an irrational fear, one that can be overcome because it turns out an irrational fear of spiders is not only silly, but not good! Not liking pedophiles and not wanting them to have an easier time with their fantasies is incredibly normal considering what they do is massively psychologically damaging to children.

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You don't have an option to dress around in a bikini and (E)RP all darn day in any of those games, or form communities within the game based around "Lol look how sexy my Lalaqo'te looks in this glamour, good thing she's a totally legal adult wink wink nudge nudge". Considering how in FFXIV, there's nothing stopping players from getting away with ERP. FFXIV allows you to have your character run around in fishnet stockings and a bikini top, Pokemon does not. What you are suggesting are False equivalencies.

Perhaps I needed to phrase it better, but the difference is FFXIV allows you to make your character look physically attractive, which is fine appropriate adult sexuality is fine, hence the gear sets like the bunny suit. People (Read pedos) will complain, probably saying "M-my Loliqo'te is a full grown adult! She should be allowed to flaunt her sexuality, not her fault that she looks like a 10 year old, when she's actually an adult!!". Assuming SE gives in, just as they would assuming this would become an option, then SE is allowing pedos to feel comfortable in their game, sooner or later we run into a TERA situation.

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I've expressed several times, Lalafell are cutting it close to that creepy edge. The difference? The picture the OP linked is literally a Miqo'te child, Miqo'te look and develop similarly to humans. Lalafells aren't close to humans, and as several people have pointed out in the thread "I want to play as a child, not as a potatoe lol". That is a child, with child like proprotions, making it even more closer to a child. Maybe. Maybe. Make it an option, but severely restrict the clothes.

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The OP isn't asking for "Characters that look like children but look like adults" (Despite that it is something people use to get away with creepy pedo stuff), the OP is asking for Miqo'te children. It's now shifted to just saying the Miqo'te child is a Lalafell/Miqo'te hybrid, whenever I'm fairly sure that's nothing like that would look.

Jesus christ you guys, these are kids here, virtual or not, why are you all fine with giving people the option to sexualize them? Seriously, guys, the OP calls "unaging, forever young" Padjal Raya-O-Senna hot, if that's not at least a sign you guys are at least supporting the wrong person for this idea, then I don't know what is.