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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauthryn View Post
    There are the scenes with Iceheart, with Estinien, with Tataru, with Alphinaud. This isn't some kind of conspiracy. We're clearly the "Derplander," and as such the ending is definitely going to be that we fight our shadowed clone.
    I don't buy it has to be our clone.
    Then they shouldn't have shown anybody, because they never show him for in-game cinematics.

    I don't buy that he's a separate person either.
    I think he represents WoL is general. Hence, he represents WoD in general as well.
    They don't need to look like us. They can be our counter part without being a clone.

    Though most of the story has this idea there's only one WoL, we even know there were multiple in 1.0.
    We see multiple teleported in 2.0's cinematic. That means there's multiple WoL walking around, and the midlander is just a poster boy of them.

    WoL can look like anything, and the midlander is just there again to represent many others.
    But if they wanted it to really be our clone, they could've shown our model for that cinematic or they could've simply hid it and revealed later.

    Even if the WoD looks like the Midlander, I agree it's not the same as the Midlander in the previous cinematics.
    In the end, he's just a placeholder. But they don't have to use placeholders for in-game cinematics like that.
    So I have my doubts they'll be clones, rather than just our counterparts.

    Hard to tell either way though.
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  2. #82
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    I don't think the WoD is a place holder for our "clone" why use the posterboy derplander, complete with relic weapon if they aren't gonna use him at all? They're more than capable of using our characters in these type of scene ... or if they wanted to they could just focus on his feet for the sake of maintaining mystery.

    Just like how Ysayle was also gifted with the crystal of light and was "Hydaelyn's chosen and became our counterpart for a bit, I'm believe this WoD will serve a similar role. I do believe that this "derplander" was probably one of the WoL in 1.0

    According to one of the Easter holiday lore, there was an Archon/WoL (a Roegadyn mage) who decided to side with "cloaked mages in black robes" for mysterious reasons.
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    Last edited by myahele; 06-30-2015 at 05:58 AM.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauthryn View Post
    But beyond that...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGFZ6RJqTWY

    You were saying? You see the Warrior of Light, right there, as the Midlander.

    This isn't some kind of conspiracy. We're clearly the "Derplander," and as such the ending is definitely going to be that we fight our shadowed clone.
    True, he was used as a stand in in patch trailers as well before. However, these videos don't exist in game in that form. In game it's us who are there. In fact, the launch trailer and the cinematics shows the derplander crossing the steps of fate in two different ways. I'm going to take the video viewable in game to be the valid one and conclude that the launch trailer is not canon from the perspective of my character.

    TL;DR. Having the derplander in the scenes shown in the launch trailer contradicts your personal character's story. Having derplander in the cinematics, does not.
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    Also you're all right wrt "is the derplander you or someone else". Relevant part is the last paragraph of the first post here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post898626
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    Or maybe you are all wrong on your theories. Maybe the Ascians made something that resembles a humanoid aspect using the knowledge of Allag. There is still so much we don't know about Allag really. And from making this person, they call him/her the Warrior of Darkness. Because, apparently Zodiark IS Darkness, and the Ascians wanted to make a warrior to 'champion' their master. To carry out 'his' will. Maybe it has nothing to do with us, or past 'WoL/D's. I, for one, would love to see THE city of Allag. the root of why it came to be, and who was its original leader and whatnot. Allag is still a mystery. Even with Yugiri's Doma homeland. There's just too much we don't know yet. But, I'm sure we'll find out in teh future Patches or even Expansions. But teh whole going to Space thing? Bring it on! I would love that!
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    Or maybe the WoL is an Allagan construct, and the WoD is just the trailer/promotional WoL who woke up a little too late to become such.
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    We are really going off topic now, saing nonses teories xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    True, he was used as a stand in in patch trailers as well before. However, these videos don't exist in game in that form. In game it's us who are there. In fact, the launch trailer and the cinematics shows the derplander crossing the steps of fate in two different ways. I'm going to take the video viewable in game to be the valid one and conclude that the launch trailer is not canon from the perspective of my character.

    TL;DR. Having the derplander in the scenes shown in the launch trailer contradicts your personal character's story. Having derplander in the cinematics, does not.
    How you deal with facts isn't my concern.
    I was only showing you the factual evidence.

    It is impossible for SE to put "your character" in these videos.
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    Last edited by Kauthryn; 06-30-2015 at 09:15 AM.

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I can't say for sure he was Dark either; he was against the Ascians and at least tried to kill Lahabrea (I don't think he's really dead just yet). Misguided, yes; he wanted to protect his people though in a twisted way.
    Didn't Elidibus say that the female ascian and Lahabrea had 'fallen'. Shes definitely dead thanks to the white crystal, and it certainly looked like Lahabrea was absorbed by the sword.

    Maybe he really is dead this time.
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    I sincerely hope it's not a reflection of our own characters. That's just not how the Warriors of Darkness in the past have been constructed. They were all individuals chosen by the Dark Crystal (in FF: Dimensions, the Lux Crystal) to restore the balance/fight against the Light. It would be incredibly boring to simply fight a reflection of our own character.

    I would have loved for it to be Derplander though, would have been a cool way to introduce him officially into the storyline rather than him be the poster boy of the games. Alas, if we go by the trailer he would have been a Dragoon. Not 100% ruling it out, but saying it might not be very likely to happen.
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