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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst View Post
    While the why Elidibus and the Warrior of Darkness are on Menphina (the moon) eludes me, I believe the midlander is a placeholder for what may end up being a reflection of the pc. I'd love to fight a reflection of our character.
    would make sense. but a fight against the fabled derplander would be a nice change of pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    would make sense. but a fight against the fabled derplander would be a nice change of pace.
    While derplander might get a model upgrade I don't think the warrior of darkness will be our clone. It would be waaay too complicated to create. Especially since we might not fight him/her one on one.

    As for the moon? I smell new zones. Or at least raids. I remember Yoshie saying that he wants the game to go to the moon, but I didn't think he would do it so soon.
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    It won't be our clone because they already did a "clone" story line in a job quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    While derplander might get a model upgrade I don't think the warrior of darkness will be our clone. It would be waaay too complicated to create. Especially since we might not fight him/her one on one.

    As for the moon? I smell new zones. Or at least raids. I remember Yoshie saying that he wants the game to go to the moon, but I didn't think he would do it so soon.
    dark knight story line, level 50. Though Esteem really isn't a clone, it wears your face.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    It won't be our clone because they already did a "clone" story line in a job quest.
    The enemy you face at level 50 is hardly your clone. it's your dark side, your desire to let go of your obligations and be free.
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    I would LOVE for SE to acknowledge the derplander's existence, and have him fight us. To show that people with the Echo can be coaxed away from Hydaelyn, if they're foolish enough. We've only ever seen the derplander in cutscenes, so there's a chance to flesh him out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    I would LOVE for SE to acknowledge the derplander's existence, and have him fight us. To show that people with the Echo can be coaxed away from Hydaelyn, if they're foolish enough. We've only ever seen the derplander in cutscenes, so there's a chance to flesh him out...
    Considering he's in ishgard now, it's pretty safe to say "he" is just "us." So yeah, it has to be that we are going to be fighting our shadows, which will be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    dark knight story line, level 50. Though Esteem really isn't a clone, it wears your face.



    The enemy you face at level 50 is hardly your clone. it's your dark side, your desire to let go of your obligations and be free.
    The point I am making is that square has essentially done a story line where you face the dark side or opposite of yourself. What I got was the shadow WAS you but the dark side of you, I honestly think the WOD is going to be a whole new character but instead fights for the opposite side or the world of darkness so to speak.
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    I'm really hoping it's derplander. I never liked the whole "cutscene adventurers are warrior-of-light replacements" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JarinArenos View Post
    I'm really hoping it's derplander. I never liked the whole "cutscene adventurers are warrior-of-light replacements" thing.
    It's pretty hard to do mass viewer cutscenes tailored to every single individual character.

    All of the scenes involving derplander are trailers designed to be seen outside game. That's why your character isn't in them. They have to use *something*.

    Sorta like how Pathfinder has iconics. Each class has a specific race/gender/archetype model character for it. They're fully itemized and everything, they're playable.

    Quote Originally Posted by JarinArenos View Post
    And in Pathfinder, those iconics were actual characters, with their own stories. That's all I'm wanting here.
    Considering that here, the Warrior of Light's backstory is unknown(on purpose) and their current story is completely identical canonically across all persons playing any given class, there's no reason they *can't* just make a base character for each class and use it in the cutscenes.

    They're not able to make it so that you see your character when you're watching a cut scene not hosted on their servers while you're not logged in with live access to your character data. And what about folks that don't play?

    These are trailers aimed at the general public. You seeing your own character in them, when they're not made using the in game engine for the most part, is impractical. These are full CGI. In game cutscenes for the most part use in game assets.

    You're asking for an *awful* lot of work.
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    Last edited by Nadirah; 06-28-2015 at 04:48 AM. Reason: post limit. -_-

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    And in Pathfinder, those iconics were actual characters, with their own stories. That's all I'm wanting here.
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