Most Hated: GLA Vs MRD

[Holyomen]

Sorry to disappoint, this isn't another complaint thread.

Who can generate the most hate?
Let's take a look at the match-up.

Gladiator
Heavy Slash
Heavy Stab
Provoke
Phalanx
Riot Blade

Marauder
Full Swing
Steadfast
Defender
Disorient
Warmonger
Storm's Path
Intimidation

In a practical situation both will be able to use many skills that the other class has, so I highlighted the ones that are unique.

Although Riot Blade builds a ton of hate, it cannot be used often due to it's recast time and the 2000+ TP cost. So Marauder has the upper hand using Storm's Path with it's 1500 TP cost and 10 second recast.

But, if the Gladiator is able to time their shield skills so at least one of them is always up, they may actually not only build more hate with Phalanx, but also out damage a Marauder. Phalanx comes at a mere cost of 250TP and a 5 second recast for a decent amount of damage. Although it may not build more hate than Storm's Path, it could be used much more often during a fight.

So in the battle of GLA Vs MRD, the Sentinel wins!

[Ferth]

You forgot War Drum (though technically it's a sentinel ability.)

[Holyomen]

You forgot War Drum (though technically it's a sentinel ability.)

Sentinel wins +2!


Now if my MRD can get his hands on a shield......

[KumaAkuma]

Played both Marauder and Gladiator on Ogre: Marauder always wins.

[Lienn]

Sentinel wins +2!


Now if my MRD can get his hands on a shield......

MRD no longer can use shields...SE did a sneaky update on all shields, changing them from "Requires: Disciples of War or Magic" and "Requires: Disciple of War" to "requires: GLA CNJ THM" and "requires: GLA".

So right now even if it get access to 1-handed axe it wouldn't be able to equip shield.

[Viridiana]

Is any of this taking into account that Defender increases your enmity if you're under the effect of Steadfast?

[KumaAkuma]

This discussion is useless, because you can't calculate the amount of hate each ability provides.

[BisonShade]

This discussion is useless, because you can't calculate the amount of hate each ability provides.

Couldn't this be done by engaging multiple players on the same mob and performing various different abilities to see which pull hate over others (as was done in XI)?

[Viridiana]

This discussion is useless, because you can't calculate the amount of hate each ability provides.

Umm. . .

You sure about that?

[Holyomen]

Played both Marauder and Gladiator on Ogre: Marauder always wins.

I have the same experience.
Always seem easier to keep hate with MRD.
GLA on the other hands needs Accomplice like a mofo.