What I find very funny

[h0tNstilettos]

Read the original post it is not a QQ thread.
It truly is amazing the number of people who have an opinion on a subject when they have no idea what the subject is.

I did read the topic. They are complaining of why people wanted harder world mobs, yet they see no one doing the FATEs. Clearly the OP is bothered by harder mobs and using what other people are doing as a reason they should be easier. If I hadn't read the topic I wouldn't be able to reply to the exact things mentioned in the topic.

Note the part where OP says "I was against it." So obviously they are complaining about harder mobs. Even without that part the complaint is obvious.

[Whiteroom]

I find it kind of sad that you find it very funny that people are playing the expansion rather than attacking single monsters out in the world within the first 24 hous of the expansion. Also that you assume the people you are seeing are the same people who requested more difficult open world content. Also that you thing that the sponges that were put in are the ame thing as more difficult.

Also the same thing about fate experience, or have you even played it aside from going to cch to smugly watch people level.

[Zeonx]

Read the original post it is not a QQ thread.
It truly is amazing the number of people who have an opinion on a subject when they have no idea what the subject is.

Thank you, I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up.

Least some people get it, some just wanna start calling names or getting mad cause I am throwing out some fast balls.

Also to the ones who are saying I am not playing the new area's I am and even trying to fates.

I usually am alone while others are in easy zones, I mean I don't have a issue with you guys playing it but what was the point of asking for hard zones if you guys weren't going to play it?

The HP and Exp I understand but the question is why did you ask for hard content? this isn't directed at the ones who are actually playing those zones.

As a closing statement, my cousin basically said this back then, everyone will ask for hard stuff then level 60 in old area's and just fly over everything and only worry about mining unless SE decides to do something similar to the alexandrite farming on fates but of course people will complain about that like crazy, he said it would of been a waste of time bumping up mobs that aren't even going to be relevant in a few months.

anyways that's all.

[Noshpan]

I see people participate in FATEs all the time. Admittedly not as much in the zones I'm done with, but there are lots of people doing them.

[Lewtskie]

The HP and Exp I understand but the question is why did you ask for hard content? this isn't directed at the ones who are actually playing those zones.

But what if the people who asked for this are the ones actually doing things? What if you've just spent your entire time on here without actually having kept record of who said what if they're doing the thing? And what if you just completely ignore the explanations given and continue your front even though numerous individuals have told you otherwise.

It would all almost seem like you've just been wasting your time and making complaints and accusations with no foundations. Isn't that funny.

[Shadray]

It's a risk vs reward thing. Yeh people wanted more risk, but they also wanted the reward to match.

[Ransu]

That people was on here wanting hard monsters and a sense of danger out in the fields, yet I don't see anyone out there doing anything.
Few people in a zone fighting single monsters and nobody doing Fates.

Those very same people who wanted the sense of danger are in the lower zones doing Old fates.
So why aren't the ones who wanted this out there fighting these fates? A little to tough for you?

I knew this would happen, We will see at level 60 if more people do it, though I doubt it.

I was against it, why ask for something you aren't going to do. Reminds me of SOA expansion on FFXI elites asking for really hard monsters but never did anything in those area's and it was dead.

Because the new fates give garbage xp and are a waste of time.

[Nadirah]

Open world mobs are more than just a nuisance now, which is a nice change. Although a bit spongy at lower levels, they do provide some danger to the world, a welcome and fitting change to the harsh landscapes of Ishgard.

They're spongy, that's it.

They're not "dangerous" at all once you get into 115+ gear.

I haven't had issues since I left coerthas. Three at once? oops. Still not dead.

[Zfz]

1. You don't actually know who asked for a more dangerous field, do you? You just somehow think that those who asked for it, must be grinding FATEs in North Thanalan, because, "oh yes that would so prove my point!"

2. A more dangerous field generally adds to the sense of adventure during leveling, and that is for those who quest.

3. Heavensward mobs are harder? You've got to be kidding me. They just have more HP, that's all. They are even more spaced out than ARR and the fields are as easy as it has ever been. Mobs are still leashed to a small area and you still ride your chocobo through everything until you get to your destination, ignoring all the mobs. No mobs are not harder. They're still as easy as before.

4. You will out-gear and out-level everything eventually, so it's all about the leveling experience. Fetch quests are fetch quests because fields are not dangerous. There's nothing more than play fetch. A much more dangerous field with randomized patrols and dynamically linked packs with a huge, HUGE leash radius will turn those fetch quests into real quests, which in turn allows much higher rewards, removing the need for enormous numbers of mundane quests. Quests should be about quality, not quantity. But ever since the who-where-what framework was established in the MMO genre, quests have been nothing but mass-produced mundane to-do lists because you needed that quantity to boast that your game is better. Real dangerous fields let you focus on the quality of your quests instead of just the same thing with a different copy writing.

Don't get me wrong, people do enjoy the writing. But being a game that has combat at its core, there's no excuse to skimp on the combat.

TL;DR: I think the fields in Heavensward are not dangerous at all. They're bigger, yes, but just as trivial to explore and travel through as it was in ARR.

[FoxyAreku]

Northern thanalan fates give more xp than ishgard level 51 fates.

They really messed up.