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    Scyris's Avatar
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    So since bard is crap now what should I main?

    As topic says, I am going to shelf my bard (its 53 almost 54) like many others till they fix them so they aren't such garbage compared to other dps as they are now. My choices are: 50 pld, 44 whm, 41 arc (going summoner but i'd gear scholar too) Or level my 25 ish ninja (cuz I hear they are awesome). Help me out here because as it currently is I am kinda jumping between the 3 40+ ones and I need to get something to 60 asap.
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    Last edited by Scyris; 06-30-2015 at 05:49 PM.

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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Bard isn't crap. Wanderer's Minuet is crap. There's a clear difference here. Also, do we really need another topic on the same thing?

    That aside, if you're adamant about switching class just go with something you enjoy. Black Mage seems like an obvious choice if ranged DPS is your thing. They're still the undisputed champions of damage.
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    Ellie Fredericksen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Bard isn't crap. Wanderer's Minuet is crap. There's a clear difference here. Also, do we really need another topic on the same thing?

    That aside, if you're adamant about switching class just go with something you enjoy. Black Mage seems like an obvious choice if ranged DPS is your thing. They're still the undisputed champions of damage.
    In terms of ranged DPS orr?
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    In terms of ranged DPS orr?
    Ranged DPS, specifically. Monk still tops the DPS charts, moreso now with some of their cool new 50+ skills.
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    Staisy Sama
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Bard isn't crap. Wanderer's Minuet is crap. There's a clear difference here. Also, do we really need another topic on the same thing?
    When Bard do the same damage as tank - it's called crap dps no matter how you look at it.
    And "support" are greatly overrated, in current content (Bismark&Ravanna) it's not needed. And if healers do just fine in ilvl170+, with gear progression the importance of ballad will continue to diminish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scyris View Post
    As topic says, I am going to shelf my bard (its 53 almost 54) like many others till they fix them so they aren't such garbage compared to other dps as they are now. My choices are: 50 pld, 44 whm, 41 arc (going summoner but i'd gear scholar too) Or level my 25 ish ninja (cuz I hear they are awesome).
    Depends on what you want from playstyle. All choices are not bad/underpowered, so choose what you like more.
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Bard isn't crap. Wanderer's Minuet is crap. There's a clear difference here.
    With the post-52 BRD skills being gated behind WM, and WM being crap, one could say BRD high-level gameplay is crap. If BRD high-level gameplay is crap, then BRD is effectively crap. Mind you, I'm not happy about it one bit, but thems the breaks.

    As far as what to main, you can join the poorly-lit side and play PLD. The job is still perfection given form.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    With the post-52 BRD skills being gated behind WM, and WM being crap, one could say BRD high-level gameplay is crap. If BRD high-level gameplay is crap, then BRD is effectively crap. Mind you, I'm not happy about it one bit, but thems the breaks.

    As far as what to main, you can join the poorly-lit side and play PLD. The job is still perfection given form.
    What do you mean by Poorly-lit? Anyway yeah I kinda enjoy pld, pretty much all of the 52-60 skills are good and useful, its probally going to boil down to pld or summoner/sch. Most likely pld, since its almost 51 already. Get it to 60 so my other jobs get the exp bonus, then work on those as I do endgame junks.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Scyris View Post
    What do you mean by Poorly-lit?
    Paladins aren't exactly the dark side. We leave that to our knight brethren that take the law into their own hands.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Teladi Bishop
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    Fisher Lv 90
    I would stick with what is fun.

    Sure you might get hate on.
    Sure you might feel worthless when you see other dps kill faster.
    Sure you might even go wtf when tanks out dps you.

    ...nevermind. It makes me want to reroll also.
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    Cerithiel Surrel
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    Everything you named is in a good spot right now, pick the one you want to play and will have fun with.
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