Thread: How to fix 3.0 Bard.

You guys are stuck with WM just like MCN is stuck with GB. I think the only thing I could with for is a higher multiplier so I do more damage while under its effect.

Originally Posted by Ephier

You guys are stuck with WM just like MCN is stuck with GB. I think the only thing I could with for is a higher multiplier so I do more damage while under its effect.

Yeah, I know we are stuck with WM.

That's why a fix like the one I posted is very much needed.

If PLDs were forced into becoming healers, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If MNKs were given casting times, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If BLMs and SMNs were forced to go to melee range to use any of their spells, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If BRDs had their speed and mobility taken away, that would be breaking its core gameplay.

People would most likely protest if PLDs, MNKs, and casters got the forced changes above. Yet somehow, they think it's A-OK to take away a BRD's core gameplay.

I don't understand, really.

Originally Posted by Intellion

Yeah, I know we are stuck with WM.

That's why a fix like the one I posted is very much needed.

If PLDs were forced into becoming healers, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If MNKs were given casting times, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If BLMs and SMNs were forced to go to melee range to use any of their spells, that would be breaking its core gameplay.
If BRDs had their speed and mobility taken away, that would be breaking its core gameplay.

People would most likely protest if PLDs, MNKs, and casters got the forced changes above. Yet somehow, they think it's A-OK to take away a BRD's core gameplay.

I don't understand, really.

They don't understand it for one simple reason, because they don't get that BLM can move and still do a huge DPS. But when BRD moves now, he doesn't do good DPS at all. That is the only reason why people use WM only for an opening rotation, because the 20% isn't enough when you compare it to autoattack, mobility and ability to cast 2 Off GCD skills between GCDs.

Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

They don't understand it for one simple reason, because they don't get that BLM can move and still do a huge DPS. But when BRD moves now, he doesn't do good DPS at all. That is the only reason why people use WM only for an opening rotation, because the 20% isn't enough when you compare it to autoattack, mobility and ability to cast 2 Off GCD skills between GCDs.

I currently understand that I am playing the most underpowered class in the game, machinist. Seeing you bards cry like babies over a new toy you do not even have to use is quit irksome when MCN dmg is low and we have to deal with the same thing.

Originally Posted by Ephier

I currently understand that I am playing the most underpowered class in the game, machinist. Seeing you bards cry like babies over a new toy you do not even have to use is quit irksome when MCN dmg is low and we have to deal with the same thing.

Except when MCH procs (or force proc with ammo) its instant cast in GB so they are more mobile then what brds will be, I think brds do more dps though

Originally Posted by Ephier

I currently understand that I am playing the most underpowered class in the game, machinist. Seeing you bards cry like babies over a new toy you do not even have to use is quit irksome when MCN dmg is low and we have to deal with the same thing.

And only because your class is even worse, we cannot ask for BRD fix? Should everyone who is unsettled with BRD being what it is now just stop trying to make SE fix it and rather beg for MCH fixes? Usually when they do class fixes, they fix almost all at the same time. Don't worry, they won't decide to "balance" only BRD when the fix comes out, there will be time for you too. So there is no need to undermine BRDs only because they are doing a bit better than you.

Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

And only because your class is even worse, we cannot ask for BRD fix? Should everyone who is unsettled with BRD being what it is now just stop trying to make SE fix it and rather beg for MCH fixes? Usually when they do class fixes, they fix almost all at the same time. Don't worry, they won't decide to "balance" only BRD when the fix comes out, there will be time for you too. So there is no need to undermine BRDs only because they are doing a bit better than you.

You guys have a personal problem with play style. We have a problem with lack of damage. Which do you believe is more of a problem? Fun or viability?

Originally Posted by Ephier

You guys have a personal problem with play style. We have a problem with lack of damage. Which do you believe is more of a problem? Fun or viability?

The two are not mutually exclusive

Originally Posted by Ephier

You guys have a personal problem with play style. We have a problem with lack of damage. Which do you believe is more of a problem? Fun or viability?

Oh, so you think that playstyle is the only problem?
Check parses of 60 level BRDs who tried rotations with and without Wanderers Minuet, then talk about MCH being the only class with DPS problem.
If even on dummy doesn't minuet shine, I am really curious how it is going to shine in raids where we will have to dodge aoes every few seconds..