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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabeta View Post
    Better Utility
    You lose your Utility.

    Better Shields
    Fey Illumination already does this, and doesn't kill 30% of your HPS in the process.

    method to DPS and get to near/full MP instantly.
    Fairy enables DPS by existing. It costs 1768 to bring back, and thus hurts your MP Bar. It also takes a Swiftcast, so now there's no recovering from any mistakes.

    A Good Scholar uses their fairy. A Bad Scholar dismisses it. Here's an example for you. At i200 my Physick hits for roughly 3k even. Embrace hits for 1.5k, so exactly where does that 20% Healing buff become useful? You praise the 20% Healing boost, but Fey Illumination does the same thing, without eating the fairy, AND it's on a shorter cooldown as well. So now you've lost somewhere in the ballpark of 30% healing for 30s. You got 20% of it back, but you can't even use that bonus on your most significant Scholar spells, Lustrate and Indomitability. Once the spell ends you're going to have to bite a Swiftcast for you to get your fairy back. So now you've burned a ton of MP, Swiftcast, taken a 10% hit to your healing potency, and in exchange you got three stacks of Aetherflow. If you say you used these for moar DPS, then this is literally the least efficient way you could have achieved that. 150 Potency is NOT worth 1000 MP. Not when literally every single other DPS option you have at any given time is worth more efficient. In order for Dissipate to be worth the MP you have to use Energy Drain twice, and even then the gains are relatively small for everything you lost in return. If you're using it for HEALING; however, you're even worse off. You've literally traded away healing potency in order to burst heal for 2 seconds.



    See, this here is a contradiction of what you set out to accomplish. Dissipation is costing you MP, unless you burned all three stacks on Energy Drain. In which case, claiming you have better heals is an outright lie. Better DPS is also a complete lie, because you were forced to actually heal because you didn't have the fairy around to do it for you. Even on the off-chance that your main healer actually is good enough that you "don't need fairy healing" there's still Selene, who offers way more utility than direct healing; which you admitted you don't need, but whose Embraces continue to allow you full-time DPS. Oh, and the Fairies share cooldowns, most of which are a minute long. "Fairy Swaps" aren't really a thing in the middle of combat. Not unless you feel like being pointlessly stylish because "hurrdurr I can use both fairies" despite doing so being a huge waste of time and efficiency.

    At the end of the day you're just a "special snowflake" who feels high and mighty because they didn't wipe when they used a suboptimal spell in easy content, and thought they found some grand secret strategy. For the record; there actually IS a use for Disippation that may have been mentioned on an earlier page. It can be used during the Fairy's death animation. If you're about to lose your fairy then Dissipate is actually a very tactical choice, as now you're gaining something for what was already inevitable. (although again, a good scholar probably would have avoided their fairy dying in the first place with skills like Sustain)
    You dont lose your utility. Many great scholars will actually use the fairies decent cooldowns (ie fey wind) before dissipating. What you losse is the embrace spam, but you are replacing it in a strategic manner with on demand lustrates/indomnibility. When learning new raid content, these can help far more when shit hits the fan than an embrace spam ever will. When people start taking too much damage due to mechanics not being done 100% correctly when learning the raid, i would like to see a scholar rescue the raid through embrace alone.......

    Fey illumination may do the minor part of dissipation, that is the healing buff, but it certainly does not give the eatherflow, which is the part great scholars use this skill for. Also, its questionable if eos will even be present in a raid group at all, most raid scholars use selene in all but a few cases.

    The dps gain that is being talked about is through energy drains, not through the use of fairy embrace spam. Also in a raid, its actually the main healer more than anything that allows the scholar to dps. If you ever run AST/WHM, there is no fairy, one healer can dps, and thats because of the main healer. The fairy helps out the main healer, but thats not the one reason a scholar can dps.....

    You focus too much on the healing buff for some reason when it comes to dissipation. No great scholar used dissipation for the healing buff. What a great scholar can do with three extra stacks of eatherflow can be pretty amazing. Those three stacks can be used to do some absolutely necessary dps. Have you even been in a raid where you managed to kill the boss AS its enrage starts to go off? Yep, all peoples dps contributes to the not dying part of that.



    Also at the end of the day, your attitude is really kind of appauling and wont get much support from people who frequent these healing forums. Calling someone a liar because they have found a use for dissipation is a little much, then going on to call them a special snowflake just kind of shows how bad your attitude is. Please curtail it.

    Great scholars can find a legitamate use of it during raids. This is not to say its an amazing skill. Its situational at best, but when used in the right situation it is very very very powerful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Sometimes, those 2 seconds are all you need to keep everyone alive. Lustrate is worth an Adlo in MP (1060.) Indom is worth a Succor and then some (1326). 30 more seconds of living gives you more time to recover mp. There is more than one way to conserve MP, Energy Drain (884 MP) isn't the only way. 9/10 times Ill be using Selene, so Fey Illumination is irrelevant and you don't use Dissipation for the Healing bonus. You use it for the stacks. Personally for A6s on Brawler, precast Shadow Flare, pop Fey Wind, burn my aetherflow on Energy Drains, Dissipate, then swift summon back when Bio, Aero, or movement with ruin II aligns with it falling off. Shit hits the fan that's out of your control (co-heals in a pug group dies to a mechanic) and you don't have 2 stacks, to save both the Tank from a buster and a raid wide AOE? Easy! Dissipate Indom, Lustrate! If you can return your co-healer in those 30 seconds, to healing condition, your gambit succeeded. If you had never used it in the first place, you would have suffered a Party wide or tank death.

    Dissipation is staving off death with sacrifice in situations like that, but it's also about maximizing your assets during downtime. If they wanna buff it, go ahead, but its not a bad skill. Its Aetherflow on Demand.
    Dissipation has saved my raid group when learning gordias savage a few times. What can be done in such a short period of time with the use of this skill is pretty amazing to be honest . I think it was A2S progression that showed me how powerful this skill can be.
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 05-26-2016 at 05:18 PM.