Dissipate overpowered?

[SeraphimXI]

Or in a different perspective with these numbers, you're losing approximately 28% of your total healing output (Fairy is ~1,000 HP / GCD out of a total 3,500 HP / GCD) to gain an additional 20% which puts you at a net loss of about 14% (~500 HP / GCD out of a total of 3,500 HP / GC).

Skills like this are why attempting to maximize "HPS" and theorycraft things like "healing net loss" are useless. Healing is reactive, not a rotation. It is about quick triage skills and making the most of the tools you are given. Thinking along these lines is doing a disservice to yourself. Everything in healing is about your exact current situation, spreadsheets/math and basic models can't grasp that.

[Ghishlain]

Skills like this are why attempting to maximize "HPS" and theorycraft things like "healing net loss" are useless. Healing is reactive, not a rotation. It is about quick triage skills and making the most of the tools you are given. Thinking along these lines is doing a disservice to yourself. Everything in healing is about your exact current situation, spreadsheets/math and basic models can't grasp that.

Funny enough, you're preaching the choir. lol.

I use math to determine maximum potentials but everything about healing in any MMO has and will always be about situational awareness and reacting with the appropriate tool available. When I first saw Dissipation, I saw the potential use in it, but needed a few questions answered before I passed final judgement. At the moment, I think it could use a small buff but I personally don't believe it's as useless as everyone says it will be. I do believe the times you will use it will be rare though.

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For me also, it's important for me to understand the pros and cons of any ability so I can make the appropriate decision and tool selection. Theorycrafting the power behind it helps me with that. Is it an absolute? Definitely not. But it allows me (and probably other players) to make informed and educated decisions on the fly.

[TonberiScholar]

Healing... It is about quick triage skills and making the most of the tools you are given.

I disagree with your conclusion, though not your premise. The entire reason for triage is that you have limited resources (GCDs, MP, constantly incoming damage).

Dissipation's awful because it hurts you by removing a source of healing that isn't constrained by your time or resources. And then it requires you to burn more resources to get that healing back.

If Indomitability wasn't on cooldown, I could see Dissipation being worth that trade. Or if the Fairy you had selected at the time you used Dissipation came back at the end of the lockout. Then it'd be a more even trade.

But the things you can do with three extra Aetherflow every three minutes aren't worth what you lose.

It seems like the type of thing that'll be more useful when we're solo-healing stuff we outgear in a few months.

[SeraphimXI]

Dissipation's awful because it hurts you by removing a source of healing that isn't constrained by your time or resources. And then it requires you to burn more resources to get that healing back.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding the point of Dissipation. Dissipation is not supposed to be used in 99% of the fights you encounter. Dissipation is basically the SCH's hail-mary/onside kick at the end of an (american) football game. It is the bright red button on your control panel with a glass box over it that says "DO NOT PUSH".

When everything has gone to hell and you need to survive that last 5% and have no MP and are out of aetherflows, that is the situation Dissipation is for.

It is supposed to have a huge penalty for sustained healing, because that isn't when the ability is supposed to be used.

[Cynfael]

You cannot click off Dissipation; you are locked out of resummoning for 30 seconds.

This ability simply isn't good. I can only imagine that the devs conceived this as a sort of WHM mode for SCHs, but the loss of the fairy combined with the necessity of blowing the MP and usually a SC to resummon it make it more hassle than it's worth.

I don't need more Aetherflow stacks with which to healbomb people; I'd almost always rather have a second source of heals and a cleanse that's AoE and not tied to my GCD. If I want a 20% healing buff, I'll summon Eos.

[Ghishlain]

You cannot click off Dissipation; you are locked out of resummoning for 30 seconds.

Thanks for the answer/ One more mystery solved in my head.

Even how it is now, it's not like it's bad. At worst it gives you an extra 3 Lustrates which will more than make up for the dead fairy for 30 seconds. It's sacrifice for situation. If you need heavy healing at the moment then 3 extra Lustrates on top of Emergency Tactics Adlo is going to outheal just you and your fairy, so if you know the damage is just going to be for the phase you can cover it and tell the other healer to start using their big heals to cover for the lost fairy.

Still it could be a little bit better to give it some more appeal, and for that we'll have to wait to see what changes come and if you can click off the buff.

I think it could use a small buff, such as having it affect both healing and attack power since you're locked out for 30 seconds.

To me, Dissipation has always been about "How much AoE heal can I throw out on the fly?" and with Emergency Tactics + Succor into Indomitably, that's 760 potency being through out in four seconds. If you then Adlo someone and pop Deployment Tactics, that's another 720 eHP being through out there. While there should never be a scenario where SCH needs to solo heal and dig out and protect your entire party at once, it can happen.

Alternatively, I'd be happy if they changed it so you CAN click off the buff and resummon the Fairy. I don't think it'd be broken because then you'd be spending a lot of MP + swiftcast for the trade off of some healing power and 3 Aetherflow stacks.

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At this time, the only real scenario where I can think of where you may need to use Dissipation is if you needed to have the eHP to survive something in the vein of Terraflare at a low ilvl within Alex Savage. Fey Convenant + Fey Illumination + Dissipation into Adlo on a Convalescence'd WAR then pop Deployment Tactics for maximum HP buffer.

[Xenos74]

They could perhaps add a 10 sec buff after the 30 second lockout timer where it's 0mp cost to resummon your fairy, or similarly make that short window where your fairy cast has a "swiftcast" effect to it. As it is now, I'd agree that it seems like a very situational use but I've yet to get to the point where I can try the skill for myself

[SeraphimXI]

With the current very low gear levels and people learning the fights the last bosses of Neverreap and Fractal can be MP nightmares. I've used dissipation on 3 separate occasions to avoid a wipe.

Is it situational? Yes. Are there very few situations where it is useful? Yes. Can it save you from a wipe sometimes? Absolutely.

From the XXI live letter: "Instead of just simply increasing a scholar's abilities, we made adjustments by adding actions that require you to really think about their use and the best time to utilize them."

The fairy sacrifice is the trade-off. If you use it at a bad time you are hosing yourself, however at other times you can be the hero (which only you will know because nobody else even watches the hp bars). The fact that it isn't an overpowered no-brainer use it on CD ability is exactly what they were looking for, and they nailed it.

[ckc22]

The fairy sacrifice is the trade-off. If you use it at a bad time you are hosing yourself, however at other times you can be the hero (which only you will know because nobody else even watches the hp bars). The fact that it isn't an overpowered no-brainer use it on CD ability is exactly what they were looking for, and they nailed it.

Yeah. But it's a bad trade off that isn't worth the cost. I've literally never touched it except to see what it looks like - and it's even graphically underwhelming.

[Teno]

The good thing about dissipation is that when SE will rework it, we'll get a brand new spell.