Machinist needs serious attention

[xnonamex]

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1) I have a friend playing who is fine with how MCH plays and he is pulling decent numbers in real fights. Also there are some MCH here who tried to suggest that it is actually not that bad but most ppl ignored them. (again. not suggesting that you are wrong!)
2) Well there won't be evidence until we get high lvl raid will there?
3) Oh im interested what that buff is? Haven't had the chance to play so much lately with random party setups so I don't know (again, this is not bashing, im truly interested ).
4) Well i do not know how much it would add. it rly depends on your composition of skills how much actually are piercing. And that is something that i was asking tbh. Cuz also for me it is interesting how much it might add.
5) At which point was I rude?!

@LittleArrow no need to apologize. Just saying that my intention was to never bash against anyone. Just wanted to have a discussion. But it started to get a bit heated imo....

[Ramath]

1) I have a friend playing who is fine with how MCH plays and he is pulling decent numbers in real fights. Also there are some MCH here who tried to suggest that it is actually not that bad but most ppl ignored them. (again. not suggesting that you are wrong!)
2) Well there won't be evidence until we get high lvl raid will there?
3) Oh im interested what that buff is? Haven't had the chance to play so much lately with random party setups so I don't know (again, this is not bashing, im truly interested ).
4) Well i do not know how much it would add. it rly depends on your composition of skills how much actually are piercing. And that is something that i was asking tbh. Cuz also for me it is interesting how much it might add.
5) At which point was I rude?!

@LittleArrow no need to apologize. Just saying that my intention was to never bash against anyone. Just wanted to have a discussion. But it started to get a bit heated imo....

1) I pull "decent" numbers, too. "Decent" isn't the issue. The issue is the fact that MCN isn't where it SHOULD be. ie- closer to ANY other DPS (BRD included). I just put a BRD to shame in a dungeon. It means he was terrible at his job. It doesn't mean MCN is "just fine the way it is" as some people are trying argue.
2) There will be no proof until we have higher level raids. We have plenty of evidence now. We have countless parses, some by good players and some by bad players, all showing that MCN is the undisputed low man on the totem pole by a good margin.
3) Our buff is Hypercharge. It gives our turret's auto attacks an added effect that applies to any target it hits. The Rook (our single target turret) gives a debuff to the mob that makes it take added physical damage for a time. The turret's buff lasts for 15 secs, but it applies a 10 debuff to the target, which refreshes a couple secs per additional hit.
4) Not knowing is understandable. As someone who has cleared T1-13 as a DRG, yes it helped. Almost any buff will. But it never raised our BRD's dps nearly that much.