Machinist needs serious attention

[Jandor]

At the moment Machinist seems to offer less damage and less utility (no damage boost for other jobs), so I can't see this happening.

Hypercharged turrets add a 5% physical/magical damage resistance debuff to attacks depending on the turret, but no, on paper at least it doesn't look as good as Bards damage boost.

We've only had the Job for a few days. Its a little too early to be trying to draw final conclusions with such a limited data set.

Got to start moaning ASAP if we want buffs by 3.1 .

[Wigett]

I tend to agree with most of what the OP stated. I think they need to review this some more. im still in the early phase of this new job, but from what I can see early and what some friends tell me later, its still "rusty"

[IfritReborn]

I regret leveling MCH using MSQ instead of Warrior. Because atm they're the better DPS, and they're TANKS!

[LittleArrow]

I regret leveling MCH using MSQ instead of Warrior. Because atm they're the better DPS, and they're TANKS!

Yeah, the moment I knew something was off was when I was catching up my husband in a quest that I had just done on his DRK. He killed the mobs in about 3 hits and it took me like 5 or more............ so sad lol

You sure that you are not talking about how SMN was before 3.0?

Yeah, seems like MCH is the new WAR / SMN / BRD. Unfortunately for this class though, I don't see any sort of focus in it yet. I truly hope they're keeping an eye on this and realizing that even if we're not playing the class optimally, maybe they should make it a bit more user friendly so we can.

[Themis]

Yeah, seems like MCH is the new WAR / SMN / BRD. Unfortunately for this class though, I don't see any sort of focus in it yet. I truly hope they're keeping an eye on this and realizing that even if we're not playing the class optimally, maybe they should make it a bit more user friendly so we can.

It seems like the burst is pretty decent (only at 51 myself), but once you have no ammo it can really slow down the play. Everything is on cooldown and you are left to just Split Shot a few times and hope for a proc. I don't think a lot has to change, just a little bit of a boost to make it at least comparable to a Bard.

Personally, I think that good play on MCH should do more than good play on a BRD, simply because we have an element of luck involved in that. BRD is far more consistent in output.

I'd also like to see a boost of Split Shot proc to 75%. Just to make it more common to get a Slug Shot proc (it would increase the chance of getting Split > Slug > Chaos to 37.5% instead of the current 25%, but that's only 50% more). Little things like that could improve the feel quite a lot.

A little bit of love, please.

[Yukiko]

You sure that you are not talking about how SMN was before 3.0?

[Taimara]

People on reddit have been comparing all the jobs at level 60 with comparable gear and well, MCH is the absolute lowest by far.

The DPS numbers:
SMN: 1050-1100dps (ilvl161 w/ ilvl 170 weapon)
DRG: 1100-1200dps (ilvl170)
MNK: 1100dps (ilvl170)
BRD: 900-1000dps (ilvl161 w/ilvl 170 weapon)
MCH: 760-840dps (ilvl170 w/ilvl 180 weapon)
WAR: 750dps (ilvl159 w/ ilvl 170 weapon)
BLM: 977dps (ilvl159 w/ ilvl 170 weapon)

Yes, melee dps should be higher because in a normal boss fight they have to move out of range and other stuff. MCH don't but still, that much of a difference is ridiculous. BRD is higher and if you get horrible RNG your DPS will go lower. I've lost count of the times when Split Shot did not proc until quick reload was up. I've had runs where the supposed 50% proc rate was more like 15%.

I still love the job but I fully expect people to not want it for end-game raids until S-E buffs it a bit.

[SovereignAegis]

THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes! YES! Upvotes a billion times YES!

[SovereignAegis]

Here you go, my thread I made the first day of prerelease on machinist when I realized something was wrong. And yes I did my absolute utmost to do maximum damage and rotation and STILL felt this way.

I still do feel this same way even today. My Scholar does more DPS for real when I spam broil. It's upsetting to say the least.

I have a member in my FC who states that it gets better, that he does well... but I wonder if he is saying that just to make me feel better.


My thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-level-42%29

[PlumpyMcduff]

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Propose changes you'd like to see to the Job in this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Changes-HERE

Or discuss my proposed changes, if you wish.