Your thoughts on "Warden's Paean."

[Linfy]

I just want to see what everyone thinks.

[xenok]

Sorry, no opinion since it requires WM (hence never used it before), and no self-respecting bard uses WM.

Well, actually that's not true. There is one acceptable use of WM, which is to open with WM -> click all the buffs -> EA -> "ooohhh big numbers" -> click off WM -> back to the 2.X days of being a bard.

[FateAudax]

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Warden's Paean doesn't require you to be in WM mode. However, I agree with you on the WM. No self-respecting bard will ever use it. I play the class for the mobility and not to be some pseudo caster wannabe.

To answer the OP's question, it's pretty useless with the 2+ seconds cast time which you have to cast for every individual and only lasts for 30 seconds to block 1 detrimental effect. In summary, don't bother using it.

[Sylve]

No self-respecting bard will ever use it. I play the class for the mobility and not to be some pseudo caster wannabe.

Huh, when did they ninjachange Minuet to root you in place while its on? Last i checked, i could freely run around with it on.

The instant nature of BRDs skills was always a sore point with me, as i love RL Archery. (inb4 RL doesn't apply here)
Yes its different, but it doesn't prevent you from turning it off when you need to move and shoot at the same time, which is nearly never. And hell, even on my MCH, stutter-stepping lets me dps on the move anyways.

[Zophar]

However, I agree with you on the WM. No self-respecting bard will ever use it.

AoE burning. Just saying.

And my experience with my various experimentations with Warden's is, it's very inconsistent. It can even block a status effect from one mob, and be incapable of blocking the same effect from something else. Good example, it can block Vulnerability Up from regular mobs, like, those Naboorie things in Hinterlands, but not block the exact same effect from, like, the first boss in Fractal. So, you'll never be able to count on it like "I know Warden's has blocked xeffect before, so I can use it to block xeffect now!"

[Edellis]

Sorry, no opinion since it requires WM (hence never used it before), and no self-respecting bard uses WM.

Haha, yeah no it doesn't.

Well, actually that's not true. There is one acceptable use of WM, which is to open with WM -> click all the buffs -> EA -> "ooohhh big numbers" -> click off WM -> back to the 2.X days of being a bard.

So, according to you, we should just remove WM from the game, so we can go back to the self-respecting ways of clicking all our buffs and doing "oooooh okay" numbers, while running in circles?



As for everyone calling a preemptive esuna useless, i'll assume you've never played any raid content before echo/nerfs came to nullify the importance of its mechanics. Assuming you know what's coming, a 30 second debuff ward could be a great stress relief to your healers.

There is literally no way to know how objectively useful the ability is because it was likely given to us for content we don't yet have access to.

[Lewtskie]

a 30 second debuff ward could be a great stress relief to your healers.

There is literally no way to know how objectively useful the ability is because it was likely given to us for content we don't yet have access to.

There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.

[Edellis]

There's having situational tools like our current songs and then there's just throwing us an ability for the sole purpose of very specific mechanics later down the road. So it's easy to say how useful it's gonna be: 90% a useless waste of space, and in that 10% moment a blessing. So... still pretty much useless. It's bad when the devs start slapping certain fight mechanics on your class and call it a new ability.

Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.

[Viridiana]

Any Bard who made it to Lv50 in the first place should be used to this....the only song that was even remotely useful before EX primals was Foe Requiem.

Maybe the HM primals, if people kept dying or something, IDK.

That's not entirely true. I mean, BCoB was out before EX Primals, and you can't say that Ballad/Paeon weren't useful there.

[RyuDragnier]

Sorry, no opinion since it requires WM (hence never used it before), and no self-respecting bard uses WM.

More like "no bard that wants to be blocked from endgame content parties uses WM." In every EX party and the few runs of Savage mode I've seen, if the BRD isn't using WM, they're being kicked and replaced immediately, it gimps your DPS too much not to use it (and makes certain DPS checks so much harder).

Warden's Paean doesn't require you to be in WM mode. However, I agree with you on the WM. No self-respecting bard will ever use it. I play the class for the mobility and not to be some pseudo caster wannabe.

You're right, you have no mobility with WM on. /sarcasm