SE,we Mac users do not deserve this third class treatment!

[Nadirah]

WoW is also a 10 year old game with much simpler visuals....Your mac was also crap when it was new.

Side note: It amazes me that people still use macs. You can do practically everything mac does on pc for half the price. It still baffles me, even more so when people try to play games on it knowing full well developers don't really support macs.

WoW just rehauled its entire graphics engine with Warlords. The graphics aren't as simple. My old PC no longer met system requirements... Which are higher than HW.

[gardei]

People that think MAC are immune to virus's and hacking are very naive. They can and do get infected and hacked. True, not often as a Windows box, but since Windows has majority of the market share, that is what most attacks occur on.

[AvathAlThor]

Most of them.

Blizzard has developed with Mac in mind since almost the beginning. WoW was developed under openGL before DirectX.

< original beta tester

I remember reading that back when it launched Blizz got about 1 million using the Mac Client. No idea what that number might be these days though given the fluctuations in player base vs the rise in popularity for Macs over recent years. I never had any problems with WoW even as they upped the graphics reqs over successive expansions. I played ESO on my Mac for a good few months as well and that was seamless.

[Gramul]

A lack of DirectX complicates things. It takes a lot of time and hard work to convert games to open GL without error and that often takes a toll on performance.

[Nadirah]

A lack of DirectX complicates things. It takes a lot of time and hard work to convert games to open GL without error and that often takes a toll on performance.

PS4 doesn't use Direct X.

They'd likely have had better luck adapting the PS4 client than slapping an emulation layer on the PC client.

[Delily]

PS4 doesn't use Direct X.

They'd likely have had better luck adapting the PS4 client than slapping an emulation layer on the PC client.

Right, Luminous Tools supports PSGL and GMN/GMNX in addition to whatever Nintendo uses.

[AmaiHanakaze]

How well do you expect a GT 650M to perform anyway? I'm on a GTX 850M win8.1 laptop and run at 1920x1080 borderless windowed with dx11 custom settings mostly set to low and most of the dx11 settings off and my laptop runs 30-60 depending on lighting/player swarm (this includes the nthan fate zerg).

Just to answer your question, my 650M MacBook pro retina (Late 2013) scored "High" on the DX11 test in the benchmark at 1920x1200 Laptop Standard settings. So given that benchmark and the fact that it runs fine through Boot Camp, I think it's reasonable to expect it to be playable on the native Mac client.

And to the haters that keep suggesting "LOL U USE MAC FOR GAMING HAAHAHAHAHA" did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, we bought a Mac for other purposes and game on the side? I guess none of us have jobs or artistic hobbies that benefit from having a laptop that can do pretty much anything that isn't made of crappy plastics and doesn't have to be replaced every few years. I'm not a PC hater... in fact, windows based PCs dominate my household over Mac 4 to 2. But I bought my Mac so I could take my side work... to my couch... to my mom's house... to a friend's house... to another state... to another country... and I shelled out extra for a dGPU model so I could do the same with FFXIV.

It's not unreasonable for us to own a Mac. The people on this thread aren't idiots and from what I've seen, we're all running dGPU models which perform fine using Boot Camp. We just want the ability to play without switching OS so that we can free up space on our drives, or multi-task with our work.

[Geesus]

Your argument holds not water. I've been arguing with ignorant people like yourself all day, but I am always up for another round, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. My video card is an Nvidia GeForce GTX750M.

And I'm going to stop you right there. Nvidia didn't MAKE a GTX 750m. GT 750m yes. GTX? Nope. Also, your proof that the so called GTX /airquotes is rated 120 FPS on FFXIV? LOL That I have to see. For one, the GT 750m didn't even EXIST at the 1 year mark ( the date you're stating you have been running this "GTX 750" since) until 2013. So unless you're talking about the ARR 1 year release, this card didn't even exist during the 1.0 1 year. Well, technically, the card you're talking about doesn't exist at all anyway soo ... but yeah. SS or it didn't happen with a GT 750m since the only few games it scores that high on FPS, and I can prove it, is games like Sims 4 on LOW settings. You won't get 120 FPS on the max settings.

[Delily]

And I'm going to stop you right there. Nvidia didn't MAKE a GTX 750m. GT 750m yes. GTX? Nope. Also, your proof that the so called GTX /airquotes is rated 120 FPS on FFXIV? LOL That I have to see. For one, the GT 750m didn't even EXIST at the 1 year mark ( the date you're stating you have been running this "GTX 750" since) until 2013. So unless you're talking about the ARR 1 year release, this card didn't even exist during the 1.0 1 year. Well, technically, the card you're talking about doesn't exist at all anyway soo ... but yeah. SS or it didn't happen with a GT 750m since the only few games it scores that high on FPS, and I can prove it, is games like Sims 4 on LOW settings. You won't get 120 FPS on the max settings.

http://imgur.com/gallery/pCI8cOi/new
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/note...specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/note...0m/performance

I meant 780M.

[CrystalRainbow]

Maybe the mac version got the same treatment as the new batman game. PS4 great PC sucks. because PC version was outsourced.

Mac version was likely outsourced to some 3rd party and will get patched now that it's not running on Mac PROs