SE,we Mac users do not deserve this third class treatment!

[CGMidlander]

Yes, I know Mac is not good for gaming and my 2012 late MBP Retina is old. I did not expect it to run the game at good fps rate. 20-30+ fps at 1920*1200 is acceptable for me. However, even such a low expectation has been proved to be too naive today. My fps rate is floating around 12 regardless how much I have adjusted the resolution and other graphic settings. Unfortunately, I have to abandon it and being stuck in this situation since I have no PC or PS license for HW (have no intention to pay more money into this ridiculous license system either) and cannot switch back to my old crap bootcamp Windows to play the game.

Your 2012 MBP wouldn't perform well even if it ran Windows.

Intel HD4000 integrated graphics just don't cut it for this game. It's not SE's fault.

[Brianmj]

Your 2012 MBP wouldn't perform well even if it ran Windows.

Intel HD4000 integrated graphics just don't cut it for this game. It's not SE's fault.

2012 Retina MBP has a discrete GPU. It comes with a GT650M. The Mac client isn't native. That's the problem. Everybody is having quality issues.

[LeonWhitehart]

My MBP has GT650M, it runs ok under Windows OS.

[KaedrianLiang]

My MBP has GT650M, it runs ok under Windows OS.

3 generations behind and the lower side, a GT 650M, and merely GT, no X at the end.

Nvidia "recommends" a GTX 660 or greater for ffxiv, heres a link to a apples to apples comparison: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GT-650M.

The only way Square-enix can help you with your decision to buy a mac and attempt to play a AAA MMORPG title on it, is to buy you, your very own PC-Windows/ps4 system. Which is a lot to ask for. Mac's serve a purpose and its not playing AAA titles.

Very typical though, Mac user flaunting their ignorance, because some company convinced them their products are 2nd to none (in rounded edges and over usage of the white tones).

[LeonWhitehart]

3 generations behind and the lower side, a GT 650M, and merely GT, no X at the end.

Nvidia "recommends" a GTX 660 or greater for ffxiv, heres a link to a apples to apples comparison:

The only way Square-enix can help you with your decision to buy a mac and attempt to play a AAA MMORPG title on it, is to buy you, your very own PC-Windows/ps4 system. Which is a lot to ask for. Mac's serve a purpose and its not playing AAA titles.

Very typical though, Mac user flaunting their ignorance, because some company convinced them their products are 2nd to none (in rounded edges and over usage of the white tones).

I am ignorant and typical? I can only reply with a smile. btw if you have never owned a MBP, I must tell you that it is much more powerful than the specs stated on paper. This is why so many of us have kept our MBP for years without worrying too much about its performance.

[KaedrianLiang]

This is why so many of us have kept our MBP for years without worrying too much about its performance.

proving my point. "for years without worrying too much about its performance." can be said for windows platform PC's and laptops. MBP's aren't special, they are made in the same factories where HP, Dell and Acer products are made.

I've had my thinkpad for 5 years. it can play the game, although not very well 20-30fps at lowest settings. The thinkpad i use for basic user needs. I have a MSI laptop for my personal use. Locks HW at 60 FPS on maximum + more driver level tweaking to make it even more detailed. Can't do that with a MBP, the best part, $1000 USD cheaper than the highest spec MBP.

Ignorance is bliss.